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    Türschlösser i.O.lt.And.Mittlg.128/66 v.KW
    = Türschlösser in Ordnung laut Aenderungs Mitteilung 128/66 von Karrosserie Werk.
    = Door locks are o.k. according to Adjustment/Alteration message No.128/66 of chassis factory dept.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 911T1971 View Post
    Türschlösser i.O.lt.And.Mittlg.128/66 = According to Adjustment/Alteration message No.128/66, door locks are o.k.
    Very interesting! But that is not the one we need. We need 13. Also, my understanding that there might be two types of R.S...we need the "marketing/sales" #13 for year 1966 one. Danke!

    -Allen-

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    128/66 v.KW PORSCHE

    Quote Originally Posted by 304678 View Post
    I did some further research.

    I think the 13/66 is not week 13 but bulletin 13 of 66.

    See the Kardex sheet below which has 128/66

    Any one can confirm this? Were there so many bulletins in a year, 66?

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    128/66 volume. Karosserie Werks PORSCHE ? {per #8 above}

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    Looked through issues 60 - 65 and didn't see anything mentioning a 'Deluxe' 911.

    Here's the 2 page intro article for the '67 S from issue No. 65 October 1966.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cliffandropoff View Post
    128/66 volume. Karosserie Werks PORSCHE ? {per #8 above}
    Cliff,

    Yes..good guess I think! Let's call it 13/66 which it is and to aviod confusion since 13/66 is the one we want; 128/66 was just an example Richard gave to demonstrate the schema and was a different proper 1967 911S.

    -Allen-

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr 911E View Post
    John,

    Good eye and funny! Maybe the wipers set up failed on the gray car and was replaced. But here is the other deLuxe and they park as we expect.
    -Allen-
    By the way, the Koni front damper covers have PORSCHE stamp & not Koni, if that is any help.Cliff

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    I found some new infos regarding DeLuxe model:

    "During the Sept. 1963 IAA Frankfurt show the new Typ 901 model (VIN 13 325) was shown as a non-running prototype.
    Its estimated sale price was 30% more than the 356 precessor (23'900DM versus 17'000DM) and it was difficult for vendors
    to justify the planed price tag at the 1963 IAA show.
    Sales director Mr. Raether was later able to lower final production price of a 901 of about 1500DM or approx 22% more than a 356.

    On a factory notice of 9th December 1963, Porsche initially planned three models:
    *901 deLuxe.
    Model similar to yellow Typ 901 show car at IAA Frankfurt (Sept. 1963)
    Equipped with 6cyl. 130hp engine, full leather interior and full luxury equippment. Price: 22400DM (1500DM less than IAA)

    *901 normal
    Equipped with 4-cyl. 95hp engine, skai interior, steel wheels without chromed hubcaps, wood steering wheel.
    Price 17500DM (i.e similar to 356 model)

    *901 S
    Equipped with 6cyl. 150hp S engine: Price: 23900DM

    A year later, in December 1964, only the first model of the planned range, the 901deLuxe was ready for sale promotion tours as well as having served as a test car for further construction details development (7.February 1964 - 25 August 1964).
    Therefore, this single model was later designated as a 901 Coupe.
    Porsche held regulary sessions of airodynamic tests (real size models only after March 1964) as well as sessions to improve construction development details on 901 protoypes (1-13/) as well as first-serie 901 cars. (communicated by R.S.?)

    On this kind of sessions, Porsche initially abandoned plans to develop a sun roof for its 901 program and only
    after sales promotion director Mr. Wagner pushed for it, it was decided to offer Golde sun roofs.
    This time delay was the reason on 901/911 cars sun roofs could be ordered only after June 1965.

    In October 1964, Porsche showed the final 901 Coupe in Paris where Peugeot vetoed against the x0x model designation
    (they held rights only in France) and Porsche changed to 911.
    The same happened to the 902/912 while 904 was for a sports prototype car and - showed a year earlier (1963) -
    never received a veto from Peugeot."

    Therefore It took Porsche more than the planned 9 months to actually sell its first 901/911 model, a time delay cap usually applied to german car manufactors when presenting a new model on IAA car shows.


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    Deluxe Model

    Interesting; Are the Deluxe 67 models re-numbered earlier cars? I`ve never at all heard of a 65/66 Deluxe. Was 304863 Deluxe used by PORSCHE officals to promote all three lines of 911 at the time? Cliff

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    Quote Originally Posted by 911T1971 View Post
    I found some new infos regarding DeLuxe model:

    ..................
    On a factory notice of 9th December 1963, Porsche initially planned three models:
    *901 deLuxe.
    Model similar to yellow Typ 901 show car at IAA Frankfurt (Sept. 1963)
    Equipped with 6cyl. 130hp engine, full leather interior and full luxury equippment. Price: 22400DM (1500DM less than IAA)

    *901 normal
    Equipped with 4-cyl. 95hp engine, skai interior, steel wheels without chromed hubcaps, wood steering wheel.
    Price 17500DM (i.e similar to 356 model)

    *901 S
    Equipped with 6cyl. 150hp S engine: Price: 23900DM

    .............
    Source: Aichele
    Thanks for the above info! So, the deLuxe wasn't a new name and apparently came up again. We still have several folks looking Sales Bulletin #13. Meanwhile a VERY knowledgable ex US dealer told me that these cars may have been updated to 1967 model designation to help sell old(er), i.e. 1966 cars that were getting hard to sell with the S coming out. Also, btw, I am told that it is very easy to make wipers park on the right or left side (I asked for details) so one of these cars may have been (in fact probably was as it clearly is a 66-looking car) modified and that is why the wiper are not where we expect them
    -Allen-

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    Quote Originally Posted by 911T1971 View Post
    On this kind of sessions, Porsche initially abandoned plans to develop a sun roof for its 901 program and only after sales promotion director Mr. Wagner pushed for it, it was decided to offer Golde sun roofs.
    This time delay was the reason on 901/911 cars sun roofs could be ordered only after June 1965.
    The first car with sunroof in my list is VIN 301396, and it appears to be June production.
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