Ultimate R thread

[gva-sfo]

#014R on display in Avignon, France in beautiful shape.
It seems to be the car of Mr. Guy Chasseuil (who raced #018R at that time) and this since 33 years.

http://www.autodiva.fr/forum/viewtop...574&start=1160

[Biancaneve]

#002R seen yesterday at Porsche70 exhibition in Brussels ...

[Jens]

Thanks for the photos. Love the details.

[Biancaneve]

Thanks for the photos. Love the details.

My pleasure

[gled49]

Why is there such an aversion to calling the "R's" what they really are 1968 models. Only the 4 prototypes can be called 67's. 118990xxR vin #. The 8 is the model year. Is it somehow something less as a 68. G

[Cornpanzer]

Thank you!

why is there such an aversion to calling the "r's" what they really are 1968 models. Only the 4 prototypes can be called 67's. 118990xxr vin #. The 8 is the model year. Is it somehow something less as a 68. G

[Jens]

Why the angst?

[whojoemama]

Since some time, I had the envy to translate the info that was posted into the Autodiva forum, that Pgxif mentioned in April this month.
Instead of a Google translate, this should be a (..may be ??) little better:

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Porsche 911R status Registry 29 May 2011, result of a work done at Autodiva Forum (Fr.)

Notes : a) Be careful to not mix-up the 4 prototypes (« R/1-4 ») with the 4 first « prods », i.e. : 11899001 – 11899004, that have numbers that end up in general with an “R” (..except, at least : 002P) ! I.e. : nickname « R/1 » is not equal to « 01R » !

b) The “white” color mentioned below should be accurately named "Light Ivory". (In French: « Ivoire Clair », which pronounces like “to see clearly” ! a kind of joke in such a case). The color code is 6804, where “68” is for the manuf. year..

a) 4 Factory Prototypes : R1, R2, et R4 in fiberglass (front fenders + hoods + doors), but, R3 had (?) those parts in aluminum (R3= «Sportomatic»)

305876 R/1 : white, ( ? ) Long time at Porsche > sold to ? > According to Kerry Morse : this car is currently in France !

306681 R/2 : fire red, lic. plat. S-YZ 29, driven by Vic Elford/van Lennep at the Mugello 1967, also N°115 at the “Coupe des Alpes” year ?, > ( ? )

307671 R/3 : “blood orange”, Im.: S-ZZ 829, “the Sportomatic !” Winner in 1967 of the Marathon de la route (Hermann, Neerpasch, Elford) > Alex Soler-Roig (Spain) > ( ? ) > UK, collector > sold, c.f.: http://www.gmundcars.com/cars/612/911r.html Note: not equipped with “NSU lights” Fr. & Rear, but with “std.” Porsche lights !

307670 R/4 : lemon yellow, 12 May 1969 Porsche AG > Sonauto > dealer in Grenoble : “Etablissements (Ets.) Balas” > Victor Blanc, Ronde Cévenole > returned to Ets. Balas > auction 15 October 1970, odom. : 2’343km. > stolen the night before the auction > found, Mars 1971 with broken rods and missing seats, with 2’762km at the odometer > Back to Ets. Balas, storage up to Jan 91, repaired > auction > U.K. collector, Martin König, Lic. pl..: CYY 244G (UK) partly-restored by Moto-Technique. During “Tour de France” 1995, engine failure, repaired with appropriate parts > 1995 sold ( ? ) > Monterey Christie’s Aug. 2006, auction (odometer : 7’500km tot. !) > (now in USA) Complete Restoration by B. Canepa, Scotts Valley, CA, beautiful results, see: www.canepa.com/racing/911R_final/index.html, owner ?.


b) 20 Production cars, c/o Karl Baur

Notes : a) According to Porsche files, in the 20 K. Baur production run, 19 have been fitted with race engine type 901/22 (210 hp). The engine numbers of this serie goes from 508 0001 to 508 0022. This tend to show that some engines were built in reserve, over the 19 cars. Note that we can remember that this engine was already used for example with the Porsche type 906.

b) Only one car of the 20 production unit has been sold as a “road car”. This car was sold brand new, but equipped with an engine type 901/02 (or 901/10) i.e.: 170hp and this 911R was the only one produced and sold with this type of engine.

11899001R : white, red lines, 1967 ”BP” Monza Record Run (Spoerry, Steinemann, Siffert, Vogele), > “Tour de France 1971, D. Thiry/R. Witz (Fr), > ? modified “S-T” > 1991 Roy Walzer, via Kerry Morse, restored and painted white with green lines !!” by Jim Newton Automobile Association. (USA, Connecticut). Roy Walzer > Collector in Costa Mesa. > sold to a Collector in L.A., #01 is now on the US West Coast.

11899002P : White, lic. plate: S-04516, Nov. 1967, orig. engine is N°. 508 0004, Gearbox N° 928 4012. During 23 months, Porsche Engineering (Racing dept.) of the factory. No external fuel cap in the center of the front hood. This car was the back-up car (parts) of 001R car during the Monza Record Run, Also seen at the Press Day in Hockenheim with Vic Elford. > Sep 1969 sold, no engine, no gearbox, and Scheel seat set supplied separately par Porsche. New engine, n° 5080022 and gearbox sold also separately to Dr. Mario Daolio, an Italian MD residing in Ethiopia. In 1980, Dr. Daolio retired, and returned to Italia, ..with his 911R. > 1984, sold to collection Jun Euda, Tokyo, Japan > sold Sep 2004, with 32,969kms on the odom. to Symbolic Motor Car Company, via Bill Noon, South CA, USA, La Jolla, CA. > Sold in Oct 2006 to a Belgium collector, car seen many time in action at the Abbeville track, France, i.e.: with Gijs van Lennep driving it.

11899003R : ( ? )

11899004R : white > Porsche > Jo Siffert, > Gaston Hofer (Switzerland, Jan 79, > Collector (France), 1989, Gulf livery (now in France) for sale, sold ?

11899005R : white, lower part of front hood red. Lic. Plate: S-K 2403, 1967 “Tour de Corse”, “Tour de France”, with G. Larrousse. > ? > Jo Siffert (CH), ? filmed during “Le Mans” movie) > 1977, Paul Harrison (in Germany) > 1979, Ron Armour, (CA, USA) > ? > Now : Collier collection (USA)

11899006R : ( ? ) According to internet US forums, this car is in Europe. > ?

11899007R : white, lic. plate: S-YZ 28, “small truck lights” on the hood (in French slang: some time : “lumignons”. Car driven by Ben Pon/Spoerry during Mugello in 1968. > J.M. Fernandez > Palomo > Gargalo > ? > ? Doug Braun, restored in New York, USA.

11899008R : ( ? ) > burned in a garage, sold late 2010 via http://www.johnstarkeycars.com/pages...1967_911R.html, being restored by Gunnar Racing (USA). See photos: http://www.gunnarracing.com/ and “Projects”

11899009R : ( ? )

11899010R : Manuel Nogueira Pinto (PO)/Joa Andrade Villar > Alex Soler-Roig > Max Pedrazzi.

11899011R : white, > ? > Jeff Zwart, Photographer, California, USA > Jerry Seinfeld, in California (Santa Monica)

11899012R : ( ? )

11899013R : “slate gray”, ordered by Michael Green (source: Excellence Magazine Aug. 1992) > ? > Dirk Layer, resprayed in white > ( ? ) Jack Croul, (Newport Beach, CA, USA).

11899014R : ( ? )

11899015R: “Cadillac gold”, Jim Mc Daniel(USA)/G.Sullivan(USA) Daytona/Sebring 1968. (Was part of Collier Collect. > sold to > ? USA ?

11899016R : ( ? )
11899017R : white, “the 5th Prototype” that was equipped once with a 4 cam engine. > sold Feb. 1970 to Mr. O’ Farrill Avilla, Puerto Rico, USA. > ( ? ) > now equipped with the engine that won the Monza record (N°. 508 0004). n°017, Peter Kitchak Collection, USA, see: http://www.toadhallracing.com/toad-023.html

11899018R : ( ? )

11899019R : “white, with green and orange lines. Imported. by Vasek Polak, in 1968 > brand new, sold Cullen Crabbe (racer IMSA, n°32 son of the movie actor Buster Crabbe), 1978 > Bill Lanphear, Burbank, California. It was restored in 1985 by Dan McLoughlin of AIR (American International Racing) > sold to a collector in Japan, with no engine and no gearbox. 2l engine (type 901/02) et R gearbox installed in 2005 > back to USA, United States, purchased by Symbolic Motorcar Company, San Diego, CA., for sale via Autosport Designs, Inc.

11899020R : “Reventlow blue”, Zipper Porsche (Bev. Hill, CA) order by Woolworth for Lance Reventlow (Scarab team), order cancelled > Vasek Polak Porsche > Bert Olander > Jim Lipps (street only driving) engine failure, repaired 1970 > Keith Bleecher used only on the streets. 1977 > Porsche collector Sam Cabiglio > Matsuda collection (Japan), re-sprayed metal gray ?, 2001> back in USA, back to “Reventlow blue” and part of a collection in USA, ?Blackhawk Museum? > New Jersey, private collector. (In the Autodiva text : Mr. Raj, that seems to drive the car on a regular base ! )


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All — i’m new to this incredible thread — great work on pulling this history together on these important vehicles. Curious if the lead historian here has created a Google Sheet for group editing / always current as the history of these cars is uncovered / evolves.....

[rower]

20r went to the west coast too. Nate Cantwell restores it and another doing a fantastic job (though 29r was missing its original engine when Raj had it). That collector then sold them. I was looking at perhaps the most original but Cantwell restored one last week and it’s fantastic. Very special cars.

[gva-sfo]

@whojoemama : Welcome.
Well, the repost that you made above is kind of "old".
I'm not an historian, but an old Porsche guy, that had few 911 during 30 years non stop as daily, sold the last one about 6 years ago against a Panamera, do track with a Boxster and currently use another Porsche as daily (a "b"ig one, some write this one with a "p" !!).
I should add that the 911R are the 911 that I like the most (of all !) but yet (!!!) never had one (joke).

This "table" is the summary of a team work, made from individuals on this forum as well as from another forum named "Autodiva.fr" ..in France !
(Many of the 911R have been raced in France and near by at that time, so, a lot of good history there.)
Do not hesitate to login in this French forum, and even if you post in English, you can either get responses in English ..or somebody could chime in to help and translate ! The important point is the passion and the knowledge, not the language.
I also know that I'm not the only one from Autodiva, ..that visit and post here !

All to say that the table above is not up to date. I wrote few other since (updating it), but the last one is still in French, as I did not found the time to translate it, and also, I did observed that this topic is much less active than it used to be.
It is true that now, I think we pretty much got the story of the 24 cars !
..OK, few are still pretty well hidden, but we got some good ideas !