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    Help needed with 1969 kardex

    A friend of mine is restoring a 69S that is proving very interesting.
    It's an italian delivery sunroof car. He has the kardex and it shows a few options that we can't find anywhere else or that appear not to match with the kardex. For example, on red book 9320 is the code for the Bremen radio while from the kardex it appears to be the one for the sunroof.
    9347, 9348 and 9350 should be the tinted windows all around and indeed the car has them. 9431 (Antenne) and 9437 (Loudspeaker) are quite simple, can anybody help with the other option codes?

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    Indeed the kardex lists some other numbers than the red book.
    Under interior (innenausstattung) is listed code 9922: Maybe italian market only.

    9415 2 Riemen: two luggage straps
    9435 MT.Entst: Radio interference suppressor
    9115 Fed-bein: shocks
    9265 Chrom KL: chrome plated wheels
    9307 L-Aus-SP: Radio speaker
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    Hey Wiper I would suggest you contact the porsche factory arcives dept. they will give you the skinny that you might not get here on the board. better yet head to deutchland and take the factory tour its well worth it I hear
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    update

    My friend asked for the COA to Porsche Italia, and they (admitting that they had to ask in Stuttgard) came out with an interesting list of accessories. In addition to tinted windows, loudspeaker and sunroof, the list goes on with chromed wheels (?), sport suspensions, double leather strap and sport exhaust.
    The interior is only listed as "black leatherette", but I would expect a different code on the kardex.

    Seems a pretty sporty specification, and probably the first owner, a doctor in Palermo, sicily, enjoyed a little bit of driving on the Targa Florio roads. The car then was bought in the early '80s by an USAF officier in one of the sicilian bases and brought to the US (still has a NY state sticker on the windscreen), until last year when it was reimported by an italian dealer.

    Does anyone else have similar specs/accessories or can help decoding this kardex?
    Thank you,
    Andrea
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    Hello ,

    The posted link to this thread by davep , got me looking at this Kardex.

    Where did they (Porsche Italia or Stuttgart) find the record (or notation on Kardex) concerning the sunroof ? I do not see it.

    I had thought that electric sunroof option was 9474 ? ....was the code changed for 1969 MY ? Here is the page from the 1968 accessories/options book listing it :
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    The first scan below is from the 1969 accessories brochure, the second the 1969 factory installed accessories catalog.
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    Thx for the clarification 88cs. Interesting that they changed the number. But then they did again to (M)650.

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    Hi guys,

    Was also decoding a 69 Kardex, but two options remain difficult for me, any ideas?


    9032 FUENGG-G - unknown
    9434 MT.ENTST = unknown


    9107 FELGE 5 = Phoenix 165VR15 tires
    9243 STUEZ KL = Black leatherette headrest
    9243 STUEZ KL = Black leatherette headrest
    9304 GUM-VSSH = Front Bumperette Rubber
    9305 GUM-HSSH = Rear bumperette rubber
    9337 NEBEL-SW = Quartz-iodine Fog lights, white, under front bumper
    9116 KONTI-ST = Koni shocks
    9432 ANTENNE = Antenne manual
    9437 L-SPRECH = Lautsprecher
    9347 GET.TSCH = Tinted glass all around
    9348 GET.WSS. = Tinted windshield
    9350 GET.H-S = other tinted window (rear window?)

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    hi is it a 911 or 912?
    9434 is a radio suppression kit for a 912 which is noted as standard with radios so I suspect the car was fitted with everything but a radio so it is shown separately along with speaker and manual antenna
    I don't have 9032 but it is the transmission section between 9031 the standard 902/14 4 speed for a 912 and 9033 the 902/60 5 speed for a 912 so my guess an optional transmission - what type does the kardex say?
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    Thanks Hugh!!

    It is a 69 912.

    it only states Getriebe Nr. 5190944

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