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    90s R Gruppe 911

    When I want to cruise across the desert in AZ in the warm months, long hoods without sufficient AC just don't work for me. So I decided that the next best thing to an R Gruppe Long Hood car may be the 964s, which are a real bargain in the market right now. I bought this last summer, (90 C2, 70k mi, tan interior), and have transformed it into an R Gruppe light weight look with Recaro SRDs, RS interior, aero mirrors, and H&R lowering springs/shocks, Cup Car wheels (8+9.5x17).

    This is a great car to drive...and I love the G50 tranny, good sound system, and with a primary bypass pipe, it sounds and snarls (approx. 260 hp) like a real porsche should. I recommend this kind of car as your longhood backup. It is still an air cooled 911, same profile, windows/doors, hand built (at great expense in the early 90s before Japanese robots took over).

    Here are the before and after shots.

    Gib
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    Gib,
    You're correct, the 964's are terrific cars and a great deal at that. I have a 92 Carrera Cup, nominally same car as 964 RS, no A/C but a terrific car.
    Phil
    Early S Junkie # 658

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    Beautiful car BTW.
    Phil
    Early S Junkie # 658

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    I like your thinking Gib. I'd love to do something similar (but go 964C4 to tame the snow up here).

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    The 964 is currently THE BEST buy in the Porsche world. Fantastic condition cars can be had in the mid to high teens with pristine examples trading in the low 20s. Compare that to a similarly priced early 911 and you can clearly see the value.

    And, with practically zero headache a 993 6-speed tranny is a bolt-in. That extra cog really wakes up the 3.6L at no expense to drivability. The aftermarket suspension support for those cars is fantastic, and little to no modification to the motor is necessary to have a really good time with what is, essentially, the most underrated of the 911 series.

    I've been singing the praises of the 964 cars for about two or three years now, and I've been planning my own 964 hotrod project for at least the last year. I was a bit early when looking to buy (should have waited another 6 months) and ended up with a 914/6 project instead. Hindsight being 20/20 I think the 964 would have been the wiser choice at this point for no other reason than immediate usability. The time will come...

    Gib, you've got the right idea for sure. You've got a great car on your hands, for sure ... but you probably already know that.
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    Welcome to the best kept secret in P Car land.
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    BTW they are great for wives and daughters and keep them at the track but OUT of your longhood-here with PCA instructor trying to catch dad in the 1973.
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    Would love to know where you guys are finding top 964s for $20k or less. I'm not seeing it.
    Erik

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    I think high teens should buy you a nice car, John's 11K C2 purchase is not at all indicative of the market.

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    I'd pay high teens right this very moment for a nice C2 5spd so long as it isn't silver and it's within 5 or so hours driving for me.
    Erik

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    All my german equipment is either busted or sold...sigh....in the market for a decent non-sunroof tub!!!!!!! Help me get back to autocrossing!!!

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