'68 'S' Targa: Opinions on Valuation:

[LongRanger]

I need some help providing an estimate of the value of a vehicle.

Here are the details:

1968 911 S
Soft-window Targa
Numbers matching per CoA
Recent complete restoration (original floors and panels)
Polo red exterior, black leatherette/hounds tooth interior
Options: Webasto heater, Blaupunkt Frankfurt
Vehicle is located in the US.

At the Owner's request, I've deleted the attachments with pictures.

I'd like to hear what the Readership has to say about the following:

1) What do you think this vehicle is worth? ---- the usual
2) What is the highest price that you know to have been paid for such a vehicle?
3) What's the most you would pay for this vehicle? (Say, at an auction --- money's no object . . . . and you've had too many beers!)

This is a rare car. And the '68 'S' wasn't even imported to the US. Any comments are appreciated, but keep in mind I'm interested in numbers --- dollars, euros, whatever . What I'm especially hoping for are some thoughtful responses from those of you who either have experience with, first-hand knowledge of, or currently possess such a beastie.

Thank you.

Rick Kreiskott

[freezing14]

i have the exact same car , and hope to be where youy are in 2 years , mine is just about to be out of surgury

irish green with beige leather interior LSD and 100L tank

[ST Man]

Hi guys

I have a 68 S Targa as well. I have been tracking them for a while now. So here are some info. Over 67 and 68 the factory made 925 Targa S cars. 69 it went to 2.2 and MFI so there is only 925 made. This is less than a Carrera RS.
In europe it seems that a soft window is valued more than a glass window just because its different. The highest prices that I have seen was a ground up rebuild in the UK at www.export56.co.uk at 60 000 Pounds and then I have seen another ground up at www.Freisinger-motorsport.com for 65000 euros (I think). But note these are very high prices and the car at export56 took a year to sell and probably didint go for advertised price.

Leon

[Milou]

Seems like a very nice car. I would also support a "high" price of Euros 55.000/60.000.

I think one must be careful with the "rarity" factor based on numbers produced (compared to the Carrera RS)....They probably made very few 911L Targa Sportomatic in 1968 but it doesn't mean they are worth more....

[Bullethead]

... and even fewer S Targa Sportos. But as Milou wisely points out, no one should expect greater demand for these cars simply because so few were produced.
I certainly don't and I own one. A strong Euro helps for now, and there's more interest on the continent but currently, €50-60,000 for #2 or better is market high.

[72targa]

FWIW...search on VIN for photos/condition...they don't come up for sale often (especially not soft window targas!)...

eBay history:

VIN: 11800283
Winning bid: US $28,500.00
Auction end date: Feb 17, 2010

VIN: 11800234
Winning bid: See notes
Auction end date: Jan 09, 2010
Notes: No sale with a starting reserve of US $50,000.00

VIN: 11850236
Winning bid: US $20,100.00
Auction end date: Sep 20, 2009

VIN: 11800956
Winning bid: US $20,200.00
Auction end date: Sep-08-07

VIN: 11800349
Winning bid: See notes
Auction end date: Jul-07-09
Notes: Reserve not met at US $7,600.00

VIN: 11850361
Winning bid: EUR 4.500,00
Auction end date: Jun-20-09
Notes: "This is a car which needs restoration and have no motor and no gearbox.

VIN: 11850231
Winning bid: See notes
Auction end date: Apr-22-08
Notes: No bids listed on a starting bid of US $8,000.00 ("The seller ended this listing early because the item is no... )

VIN: 11850016
Winning bid: See notes
Auction end date: Jun-12-07
Notes: Reserve not met at US $101,600.00

VIN: 11850061
Winning bid: See notes
Auction end date: Jan-14-07
Notes: No bids at starting bid of US $23,500.00

VIN: 11800268
Winning bid: See notes
Auction end date: Nov-20-06
Notes: Reserve not met at EUR 17,550.00 (Approximately US $22,504.37):

VIN: 11801088
Winning bid: US $13,850.00
Auction end date: Oct-29-06

VIN: 11800073
Winning bid: See notes
Auction end date: Aug-31-06
Notes: No takers at a "Buy It Now" of US $54,500.00; "complete show quality restoration with documentation"

VIN: 11801208
Winning bid: See notes
Auction end date: Aug-11-06
Notes: No sale at starting bid of GBP 10,000.00 (Approximately US $18,948.00)

VIN: 11800204
Winning bid: US $8,100.00
Auction end date: Jul-16-06
Notes: Project

[ibmiked]

Just to chime in on the 'rarity' point, does anyone else smile when a seller makes it a point of mentioning when in the production line a car was built as if it was a huge selling point?

i.e.: "This was the 40th to last car made in 1971...."

FWIW, that's a very nice car you've got there.

-Mike

[LongRanger]

At the Owner's request, I've deleted material that contains photos of the vehicle. Since it's not currently for sale, and not posted on any other public forum, I had no choice but to take the pictures down, out of respect for the Owner's wishes for privacy.

I'm not familiar with short wheel-base cars, or soft-window Targas, so I really appreciate everybody's input --- like Peter's eBay price history, as well as the links and opinions. The range of values and information underlines how difficult it is to evaluate something that can't be seen or touched. Or driven.

Rick Kreiskott

[RMartin]

As the owner of the car, I hired a company to do an insurance appraisal for me, needless to say I wasn't very happy when I saw pictures of my car posted on this board. The car isn't completely finished and the pics were bad. I called the appraiser and had the pics removed.
If you are interested and want to see some pics send me a PM. I had started a thread a few weeks ago asking the same question about value. Seems like some where between 100k-120k. Does that sound about right?

[72targa]

This is kind of like Antiques Roadshow...

For the purposes of insurance, somewhere between $100K - $120K

For the purposes of potential purchase (in current economy), somewhere between $50K - $80K

IMHO