Porsche 911L 1968 901/30 Racing-Rally

[hopo]

Hello
Winter photo - Seems to be mr AAW him self driving his personal car, Artic rally -70 ?
hopo

[joegt3cup]

I'm sure the magnet helps, but you probably know better than anyone he certainly works hard to make his "luck" happen.

Their is another saying... "the harder you work the luckier you are"

[Heritage]

Hello Gentlemen, I am very new here and hoping to get some information from those of you that are much more knowledgeable on this subject then I.
I have Bob Bailey's 911L at my shop. He does not plan on racing it anymore and would like to bring the car closer to how it was when he got it in '68. It has been 46 years and a lot of changes over that time. Does any of you have some good info/pictures of how the interior would have looked when he took delivery? I know some of the basics like seat, door panels and roll bar. Any factual info on any part of the car would be much appreciated. Thanks. Jason

[Thomas lundeval]

Looked in my binder that is from the 60's with service announcement mm for Porsche workshops in Sweden comes from Porsche's headquarters in Södertälje. There is a code for engine type designations. And at the bottom of the page you can see the 901/30 engine
6 cyl 150 HP Racing Engine with construction elements from type 901/06 made ​​since July 1967

[jdj123]

bonjour Xavier,
contactez moi au 0611916915 si vous cherchez encore (et toujours) les pièces nécessaires à la réalisation de votre projet.

cordialement,
Jean-Dominique.

[Thomas lundeval]

Update of the list, two cars are added.

[Thomas lundeval]

Auction at Porsche 911L 1968 John Kelly racing car 11810486 with 901-30 engine sold for $583,000 at Pebble Beach 18-Aug-2013.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCNeZkSaO28





Just a few short years into Porsche’s production of the 911, cars were appearing at all sorts of racing venues around the globe. The desire from private drivers to acquire specialty 911s for racing purposes was growing. To answer the influx of requests for a competition model, in 1968 Porsche developed a lightweight, racing 911 L specially fitted with the 901/30 engine. Factory records indicate 28 such engine numbers (3880001–3880028) although there is no definitive knowledge of how many cars were built. Today, just nine of these special 911 Ls are recorded, and fewer thought to remain.
Each of these competition 911 Ls was a European-specification L model outfitted with the rally kit, the sport kit 2, a roll bar, a limited-slip differential, lowered Koni suspension, a leather-covered steering wheel, and “Porsche” side script. Furthermore, the cars were void of sound deadening and undercoating and were otherwise trimmed like a 912. Final delivery specifications varied from car to car, based on expected use and ultimately the buyer’s requests.









This car.

In October 1967, John Kelly received a Western Union telegram from Porsche of America stating, “Porsche Factory offered us a limited number of modified 911 R Racing car with 210 DIN HP, light body and other racing features. Weight approx 850 kg. Price ex factory US dollar 11,250 plus landed cost expense. If interested please call Monday since cars have to be ordered for December production.”
Little more was needed and John Kelly, an SCCA champion familiar with Porsche’s on-track capability, placed an order for one of these special race-built 911s. The Kardex and certificate of authenticity confirm that “0486” was fitted with 901/30 engine 3880009, a rally kit, a limited-slip differential, a sport kit for “911 L,” a leather steering wheel, a roll bar, low-consistency suspension, Porsche lettering left and right, and a special transmission (9282017) for “race cars on airfields.” Invoiced through Heishman Porsche Audi of Arlington, Virginia, Kelly took delivery of his new, Tangerine 911 in March 1968.
Kelly’s intent, no doubt, was to race the 911, but shortly after taking delivery of the car he was hired by Triumph to race TR4s in Group 44 competition. Kelly decided to use the 911 as a daily driver and had it road registered. In 1969, however, Kelly received the opportunity to put the Porsche to competitive use at Marlboro for the Refrigerator Bowl. The car was driven to the event with time for little more than applying race numbers before the green flag dropped. By the second lap the 911 was in the lead, and from there won handily.
For more than a decade, the 911 L remained a driver until finding retirement in Kelly’s garage. In the 1990s, Kelly’s wife Susann Miller caught the vintage racing bug and had the 911 prepped for racing, which included upgrading the original engine to 2.5-liter specifications. The Porsche was raced until 2005, per the logbooks that accompany the car. Shortly after, the car was sold and subsequently restored by Porsche specialists Canepa Design.
Given the 911’s long-term ownership and minimal racing career, it stands as an exceptionally correct and original example, worthy of restoration. The original engine was completely re-manufactured with ported and flowed heads, Carrillo rods, special factory rally cams, proper Porsche rain hats, and factory sport kit megaphone exhaust. All glass, lights, and trim fitted were Porsche NOS parts. The car was finished with “Deep Six” and “Seven” R wheels, R seats, and the 100-liter fuel tank. Furthermore, the car is very well documented with a certificate of authenticity, a copy of the Kardex, a copy of the telegram to Kelly, and the original 911 L owner’s manual, and dealer directory.
In 2008, the car was sold to a private California collector with a significant selection of early 911s. The car has been expertly maintained since and used sportingly as a healthy road car. The Porsche remains beautifully presented in its tangerine finish and has a period-correct appearance befitting the special factory-prepared car. Given the rarity of the competition 911 L and its brethren, the 911 R and 911 S/T, this is an opportunity to own one of the finer examples of the early racing 911.

[Xavier PJB]

Dear all,

Do you know who owns 11810482 ?

BTW, has anyone aware of any FIA homologation sheet for these cars in group 2 ?

Cheers
Xavier

[Xavier PJB]

Just wonder :

a) Is the 1969 FIA group 2 (sedan) homologation only valid in the USA for the 1968 normale and the L models ? (Rules changed in 1970, I beleive the 911 Normale and L could not be in homologated in Group 1 and 2 anymore after 1969- the T and the S remained Group 3 and 4 - Not to mention the Normale and L homologated within the 1969 rules in group 1 and 2 could compete until 1971, I think)


b) Does any one get the homologation sheets for group2 1969 911 Normale and L?


Edit : According to the "Information Regarding Porsche Vehicules Used for Sports Purposes 1968", the 911 normale and the L are FIA Touring Car Group 2. However within the Homologated form downloaded from the FIA website, I cannot find the 911 L being homolagted group2 even with USA tag. The only 911 homologated in group 2 is written as :

Homologation form:1451 / group:2 / model:Porsche 911 / displ :1991 / homologation date :01.01.1966

The only L homologated is a Targa and not in group 2 !
Homologation form:579 / group 3 / model:Porsche 911 L Targa / displ :1991 / homologation date 01.01.1968.

Please help me sorting this out !

All the best.
Xavier

Noone can help me in the above topic ?

[HughH]

Xavier

I have this in my database (it is a part of a larger piece on 911 homologation)
it came from this board a while ago and MAY have been originally written by Chris Seven but i dont have the reference recorded.
" Between 1966 and 1969, Group 5 cars were specially modified Touring Cars (Touring in this context means a Saloon car). Only cars homologated into Group 2 could run in Group 5 during this period.

If you modify a Group 3 Grand Touring cars within certain permitted criteria than it becomes a Group 4 car, which is the category that would have been used for the T/R.

The 911 was also and unusually homologated as a Touring Car into Group 2 using Homologation Form 1451 on 01-01-1966. The 911S and 911L were included as extensions to this basic form. This is why Porsche refer to Group 5 in the context of the 911S and 911L.

It is this homologation that allowed Vic Elford to contest the British Saloon car Championship in a factory 911 much to the disgust of regular saloon competitors using cars such as the Lotus Cortina.

Group 5 was changed significantly in 1970 and was used to redefine many Group 4 cars. It became a Sports Car Homologation with a maximum engine capacity of 5.0 litres and a minimum build of 25 cars - The most famous Group 5 car being the 917."


that seems to tie in with what you have in the edit part but I dont have anything other than this. I do not believe that it was a "USA thing". I think it was global as it was a FIA thing. I am certain that cars were raced out here in Australia using the same rules