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    Porsche 911L 1968 901/30 Racing-Rally

    Wonder how many 911L 1968 rally racing cars exist of them 28 rally-racing cars that were equipped with 901/30 engine, which according to Porsche's own information had engine number 3880001-3880028. Seems like the 911L with 901/30 engine used on the racing track in the U.S. and Europa as rally cars. I know some of the cars with these engines, hope there is more information to get about these interesting cars;



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    911L racing in USA

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    911L rally in Europa





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    911L 1968 Rally-Racing cars


    Vin and engine number for 3 cars.
    11810437 3880005
    11810438 3880006
    11810482 3880010
    Former owned
    1967 911 rally B Waldegård/L Helmér B 34880
    1967 911 rally B Waldegård/L Helmér B 79072
    1968 911L rally Å Andersson/S-O Svedberg BB 4300
    1968 911L rally L Nyström BB 4151
    1968 912 rally Griberg
    1961 356 B Super 90 GT race J Bergtoft S Frodhe
    1961 356 B Super 90 GT rally H Kronegård

    My old Porsche 356 over the years. http://www.porsche356klubb.se/forum/...php?f=11&t=294

    Old 912 Rally cars http://www.912bbs.org/vb/showthread....sports-History

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    This information comes from a Swedish book published in collaboration with the Swedish Automobile Sports Federation 1969. Hope my translation from Swedish is good enough.

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    A few years ago met the Porsche claims to be classified as a touring car which had the effect of car-adjusted purely in the price lists of numerous touring car races. The model 911 L, which we competed with, however, discontinuation of why there is now allowed to drive with other vehicles of the type Lotus Elan, or group 3.
    For forest competitions can also receive Porsche equipped from the factory when there was a rally package with some of the details needed to improve both performance and handling. Furthermore, you can get your car fitted with a different gearbox with limited slip, but this is something of an Achilles heel for the car. For the gearbox did not suit the car's conventional drive shafts, and instead you get when using parts from Carrera 6 which is a much lighter car. Under extreme stress, it happens often that the drive shafts shortcomings, perhaps the most inopportune moments.
    By installing parts from the sharper 911 S engine power can easily be increased to 150-160 hp which is enough to give it substantially rally car acceleration 0-100 in 7.9 seconds. Top speed with a "normal" competition ratio is not higher than 180 km per hour to over 200 for the standard
    The price for a complete rally equipped Porsche is around 47000 SEK.
    On the race track, you need a car that costs almost as much. Here you avoid the stone guards and extra light on the other hand would be enough to squeeze out a few more engine horsepower and the cars that Scania Vabis Porsche teams using the engines of around 175 horsepower, which gives an acceleration of 0-100 in about 7 seconds and a top speed around 180 km. At rallies do not dare to take out the engine as many horses as possible when you have to have a life then of course the races going on for several hours or even days. On the track, however, drive just rarely longer than one quarter at a time and you can therefore afford to compromise on life for the engine. For the other costs will be at the track the precious alloy wheels with extra-wide racing tires. A wheel with tires will cost almost 1000 SEK.
    Former owned
    1967 911 rally B Waldegård/L Helmér B 34880
    1967 911 rally B Waldegård/L Helmér B 79072
    1968 911L rally Å Andersson/S-O Svedberg BB 4300
    1968 911L rally L Nyström BB 4151
    1968 912 rally Griberg
    1961 356 B Super 90 GT race J Bergtoft S Frodhe
    1961 356 B Super 90 GT rally H Kronegård

    My old Porsche 356 over the years. http://www.porsche356klubb.se/forum/...php?f=11&t=294

    Old 912 Rally cars http://www.912bbs.org/vb/showthread....sports-History

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    Got a new VIN number for 911L (901/30) from one Early 911S member, 11810486 and engine number.


    11810437 3880005 Rally car
    11810438 3880006 Rally car
    11810482 3880010 Race car
    11810486 3880009 Race car
    Former owned
    1967 911 rally B Waldegård/L Helmér B 34880
    1967 911 rally B Waldegård/L Helmér B 79072
    1968 911L rally Å Andersson/S-O Svedberg BB 4300
    1968 911L rally L Nyström BB 4151
    1968 912 rally Griberg
    1961 356 B Super 90 GT race J Bergtoft S Frodhe
    1961 356 B Super 90 GT rally H Kronegård

    My old Porsche 356 over the years. http://www.porsche356klubb.se/forum/...php?f=11&t=294

    Old 912 Rally cars http://www.912bbs.org/vb/showthread....sports-History

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    Hi Thomas
    this is a great idea to start a thread on these little known cars.

    I have details on some cars, some of this information came from posts on this and other parts which have come directly from Thomas and some other sources. (by the way Thomas I think a couple of the engine numbers you posted above are reversed from what I have listed)

    below is my list. it is by no means comprehensive but ion most cases i have copies of COA's, factory telexes or other documents to support the numbers and photos of most cars (which I can post as soon as I get some time). I would welcome any additions and corrections to this information so we can have a reasonably accurate source of the truth on this board.

    there is inevitably an overlap in what has been posted above but I have tried to do them in chassis order. Note the odd one out is 0414 in terms of engine number etc but I understand that those were the numbers on the kardex

    911L details
    118 1 0177 engine 388 0003 (901/30) gearbox 928 2006 (901/52)
    Don Pike Trans Am car #69 COA says rally kit sports kit etc

    118 1 0414 engine 308 0389 gearbox 328 1021 (902 / 1)
    Waldegaard rally car BB3020

    118 1 0429 engine 388 0008 gearbox number begins 928 2...
    Wetsons Trans Am car #20 1969/71

    118 1 0437 engine 388 0006 (901/30?)
    white car sold in Germany

    118 1 0438 engine 388 0005 (901/30) gearbox 928 1006
    Swedish rally car BB4300 (Andersson/Svedberg).

    118 1 0439 engine 388 xxxx (901/30) gearbox 928 ? (twin of 0438)
    Swedish rally car BB4200 (Waldegård/Helmer and BB4900

    118 1 0449 engine 388 xxxx?
    Fred Baker Trans Am car. Was for sale this year anyone know details?

    118 1 0482 engine 388 0010 (901/30) gearbox 928 2016
    Bob Bailey Trans Am car #22 COA says rally kit sports kit

    118 1 0486 engine 388 0009 (901/30) gearbox 928 2017
    John Kelly Trans Am car sports kit rally kit
    Other likely cars
    Lars Nyström 911L.#14 BB 4151 rally car
    Duvigneaud red #86 911L from Brno Grand Prix in 1968
    Kremer red #84 911L from Brno Grand Prix in 1968
    Kremer white #85 911L from Brno Grand Prix in 1968
    Kremer red #94 911L from Brno Grand Prix in 1968
    Zasada factory rally car S E 8052 Acropolis Rally 1968
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    Hi Don

    thanks for the extra information. some of the information i have has come from your informative posts in the pastand your website.

    as to you comment " I was under the impression the Wetson car was destroyed and was wondering where the serial number came from."

    this is where i got it from http://www.racingsportscars.com/chas...010%20429.html
    this site shows it as the Daytona winner #20 in GT 2.0 in 1969 for Tony Adamowicz /Bruce Jennings /Herb Wetanson

    i also have something that was posted on a board somewhere (and i dont have details where ) which states " poor scan of 118 1 0429 kardex. engine 388 0008 Trans number begins 928 2... options : rallykit, 100 liters tank (other information unreadable and in German text )" Indeed it may have even been you who posted it???

    so far as whether it was destroyed I don't know.
    the racingsportscars site shows it as still competing in the 1971 Watkins glen 6 hours with Bert Everett and Bob Beasley.
    I did note in the photos from 1969 that Westons had 2 cars with near identical livery the other car carrying (i think ) race number 22 (for Cuomo / Moore at 1969 Trans am Bridgehampton at least)

    Raj might know if it was destroyed or not.... I have a photo of a car that looks like the Daytona car with the Westons livery and race #20 with Raj's 91R in the background. I suspect that is the car that you mention was recently sold. That car may be the real thing, or it may be a recreation, or it may be the Daytona winner but not be 118 1 0429 as shown in the website i referred to; I dont know - but Raj may.
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    Thnaks for clarifying this Don

    now we have to confirm what the number of the Jennings car that was recently sold is, whether it is 118 1 0429
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    Don,

    Is your 'Don Pike' car the same white 911 he drove for Don Burns in '68?
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    Chuck,

    I spoke with Don Pike about that and he told me it was not the same car and that he did not drive for Burns! I don't know what to make of that autographed picture. Don is older now and maybe he just did not remember.

    Don

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    I am not sure if this helps but I have an entry list for the SCCA races at santa barbara on 1 september 1968

    the entry list shows Don Pike in a Kendon Porsche entered 911 class Bs #69
    It also shows him entered in a 904 for Otto Zipper car #69 but an accompanying document shows that car as did not arrive

    there is no entry that i could see for a Don Burns car, either as entrant or driver at that race meeting.

    so Don Pike would have been there to sign a program but not neccessarily as a driver of the car on the cover.
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    ARRC NOVEMBER 1968, B SEDAN race : Don PIKE is leading Alan JOHNSON' s DON BURN car


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