68S with race details?

[mikael]

I bought this 68S in really rough condition earlier this year. Lots of bodywork needed but all I could see was a redline at 7200, matching numbers aluminium engine and an interesting set of options. So I went for it.

Many mods have been done to the car over the years and I have a really hard time figuring out what is original and what are later mods.

It also turns out the car is rumoured to have been a race car in its early life, and there are some details that could support this claim. I would very much appreciate your opinion on these details, if only to clarify that they have nothing to do with race use!

I have attached some pics, please let me know if there are other areas/angles I should photograph.


* The white button is the starter. Is that really how they were originally? There seems to be a "starter position" on the ignition lock too, but not connected.
* What is the little pull button above the ignition lock for?
* What can the hole between the oil instrument and the tachometer have been for?


* There were cover flaps like these on both sides, see next pic what is hiding underneath.
* Is this long haired carpet standard or an 80's addition? It seems to be glued onto the horsehair underneath.


* This is what is under the flaps, other side (right) in this photo. Three larger holes and one smaller. What has been attached here?


* This anti-roll bar attachment looks weird, home made?


* Nadella shaft, should a 68 not have the later Löbro CV joints?


* Bendix pump right? Again, should a 68 not have the later Hardy type pump?

I am sure I will come up with more, but this is what I have now. Thanks in advance for your input!

[ajwans]

Sent you an email Mikael. Nadellas most likely indicates you have an
early ZF LSD in that transaxle.

andy

[JohnT]

It looks like a SWB rear sway bar and mounting bracket s have been adapted to fit a car with LWB Banana arms

johnt

[John Straub]

Looks like some one has put a "Dead Pedal" in.

John

[mikael]

Sent you an email Mikael. Nadellas most likely indicates you have an
early ZF LSD in that transaxle.

andy

Andy, that makes sense as according to the CoA information it was equipped with a LSD. I have yet to check if it's still in the car though.

It looks like a SWB rear sway bar and mounting bracket s have been adapted to fit a car with LWB Banana arms

johnt

Ah, that may be the case. Saw/heard someone mentioning that maybe it was converted to LWB at some point. Apart from measuring the wheelbase, are there any telltale signs of LWB? Can I determine from looking at the banana arms? Sorry if this is a stupid question, this is my first SWB!

Looks like some one has put a "Dead Pedal" in.

John

The foot rest was an original option to the car. Here's the CoA information:

Chassis number: 11800524
Engine number: 4080594
Gearbox number: 4280597
Color 6809=tangerine
Interior: leatherette black with Pepita
Date of invoice 19.Dec.'67
Dealer: Winter, Berlin
Options: additional heating Webasto, warning light, towing hook, limited slip differential, foot support left and 3-point seatbelts.

Motor is the one mentioned above, type 901/02 with build # 11608. I have not been able to find the gearbox number, it seems to have been worn off. Is the gearbox number to be found anywhere else? According to the number above it should be a 901/02 gearbox, standard S with AFMSZ gears and 7:31 LSD.

Btw, what is the warning light they mention?

[chiroracer]

Maybe thats the hole between the gauges a larger oil pressure warning light perhaps. S

[M_deJong]

If you have LWB trailing arms in a SWB car, the rear wheels will not be centered in the wheel wells.

[andrea70]

Maybe thats the hole between the gauges a larger oil pressure warning light perhaps. S

I agree. classic Idiot light position.

Interesting car, Mikael!

[mikael]

Maybe thats the hole between the gauges a larger oil pressure warning light perhaps. S

Could be. Are there examples of this somewhere to have a look at?

If you have LWB trailing arms in a SWB car, the rear wheels will not be centered in the wheel wells.

I'm afraid my wheel wells aren't much of a reference here, 935 plastic. I'm almost ashamed to show her, but this is what she looks like right now:

[MarkS]

If you have LWB trailing arms in a SWB car, the rear wheels will not be centered in the wheel wells.

If it was raced and or hacked on may have centered up when installing flairs.