68S with race details?

[gulf908]

Mikael,
Looks like you have a very interesting find there.
Any idea where it was originally delivered to ?
Customer race car record keeping was not as well organised at Porsche as it was in the RS racing era.
Your '68 S could have been a road 911 turned into a race car by the local Porsche expert or race shop by a subsequent owner from new.
Any more pics pls ?
Chassis number also ?

Good luck,
Dennis.

[mikael]

Mikael,
Looks like you have a very interesting find there.
Any idea where it was originally delivered to ?
Customer race car record keeping was not as well organised at Porsche as it was in the RS racing era.
Your '68 S could have been a road 911 turned into a race car by the local Porsche expert or race shop by a subsequent owner from new.
Any more pics pls ?
Chassis number also ?

Good luck,
Dennis.

I don't know who the first owner was, but I would really like to know! I was told this info is recorded on the Cardex, but I have no hook-up to get to the Cardex. I've been in contact with the dealer who sold the car in Berlin (Porsche Zentrum Berlin Süd Eduard Winter Sportwagen GmbH & Co) but they have no info on the car. This may be because the dealership has changed owners, here's a Porsche press release from 2007:

Stuttgart. On September 1, 2007, Porsche Deutschland GmbH of
Bietigheim-Bissingen, Germany, purchased a pair of Berlin-based Porsche
Centers from the Eduard-Winter Group. The sale sees the Eduard-Winter Group
withdraw completely from the automobile industry, having already sold its
19 VW-Audi dealerships at the end of 2005.

The chassis number was posted a few posts up:

Here's the CoA information:

Chassis number: 11800524
Engine number: 4080594
Gearbox number: 4280597
Color 6809=tangerine
Interior: leatherette black with Pepita
Date of invoice 19.Dec.'67
Dealer: Winter, Berlin
Options: additional heating Webasto, warning light, towing hook, limited slip differential, foot support left and 3-point seatbelts.

Motor is the one mentioned above, type 901/02 with build # 11608. I have not been able to find the gearbox number, it seems to have been worn off.

I don't have a whole lot more pics, but will post a few more. Anything in particular I shall be documenting?

[mikael]

Sent you an email Mikael. Nadellas most likely indicates you have an
early ZF LSD in that transaxle.

andy

Andy, I lied to you, at least 50%. Seems I have a Nadella on the right side and a Löbro on the left! What's up with that?

Right side:


Left side:



Any way to tell from these pics whether they are SWB or LWB banana arms?

[mikael]

I agree. classic Idiot light position.

Interesting car, Mikael!

Thanks Andrea, it is a bit of a mystery at the moment but I hope I can find out how it lived it's life.

Do you have any example of such an idiot light? Where they added to race cars and/or road cars?

There are photos of S/T's where there's a cut off switch in the dash. That switch was mounted between the first and second gauge from the left though, and not between the second and third where the hole in mine is. I guess it makes sense that you would not put a cut off switch where the hole is in mine, seems kind of hard to reach behind the steering wheel!


Here's a pic by Randy Wells that (barely) shows the switch on a Kremer S/T:




And here's a better pic of Gib's Kremer ST Recreation in progress:

[rick2]

SWB banana arms.

[mikael]

SWB banana arms.

Thanks Rick. Please educate me, how can you tell?

[Harvey Weidman]

The SWB has a welded flange by the shock mount, the LWB shock mount is stub welded without the flanges..
H

[andrea70]

HERE you are Mikael:

[mikael]

Nice interior Andrea! What car is that?

So the red light is an oil pressure warning light, know where I can get one?

And what is the transparent one for?

[mikael]

I removed some more gunk from under the gearbox and found the serial number, and it matches the CoA.
Date stamp is 44/67 and there's even a hard to see "Z" on it although the LSD seems to have been removed (opposite wheel spins in the reverse direction when both wheels are up and one wheel is turned).
The type is hard to see, 901/0?.