Can a 914 be competitive in Historics?

[Fishcop]

John,

On the other hand, I think you could get somewhere if you started with a 914/6 instead.

http://bringatrailer.com/2012/01/07/...mbers-project/

Hmmm, I just need a square of metal with some numbers stamped on it cut out an posted

[Alex Webster]

I agree that a 914/6 would be a much better proposition. The 6 allows for more hp and better tuning as they effectively ran a T motor with Webers. Internals being free you could go to S specs and get 160hp+ and run it on 6 inch rims. There is not a lot of weight you can rip out of them however apart from maybe bumpers.

I think set up right, as seen by Howard's car, they can be a great thing to drive. The only thing that lets them down is the gear shift which is always vague.

[hmd]

I would have thought, By the time you set one up right you wished you had started with a 901.

[Alex Webster]

probably right Hung!!

[Fishcop]

Yeah, I agree with all of the above... It's just an opportunity to grab a complete and running 914 at a reasonable price. You can't grab a 901 or 914/6 for the same kind of coin

[Andy B]

John

We are mere custodians and if you invest in a reasonable beast to stsrt with I reckon you'll get it back and more rather than less. That doesnt always help , but I'll send you a link to another idea.

Good luck John.

[Bullethead]

http://www.camsmanual.com.au/pdf/08_...rts_2012-1.pdf

no fibre glass.

Also the 914 will be in the 1600-2000cc sub category. So you are giving away 200cc to start with.

Thanks for the PDF... read it thoroughly and understand that basically, the Sc class is period Showroom Stock with a little wiggle room so long as everything is steel. That part seems kinda regressive since plastic was used on lots of SS cars in period. I'd ask for clarification and bring a file of evidence to validate inclusion. If there are examples of teeners racing in Australia in the 1970s and you get the OK, it's all good. Remove all the glass, strip the doors, cutting the majority of the internal structure, drill the rest. Chop the A pillar off, add the low windscreen, 6-point cage and the standard 914/6 stiffening kit. Upgrade suspension components and brakes as in period, and since the later teeners are 901 sideshifters, no slop with upgraded bushings and a variety of gearing choices. All good on the 14X6 wheel size and 60 series rubber, too. As to the displacement issue, well... ^^^EDIT: Good point, Dave! Two liter it is!

Russ,

What kind of hp are people getting out of 1.7 or 1.8 914 motors these days? Internals are free but capacity is limited to a 1mm overbore, single plug and solex carbs.

That's the best part... with internals and induction basically open, given enough $$ you could easily see 200+hp with the ignition allowances provided in the rules. But it's a fat flat torque curve that wins, and getting a dependably understressed 160 hp or so from 2000cc with somewhat more torque is the Type IV's strong point. See Jake Raby for how it's done.

[obrut]

Hung - Ssshhh. We're bench racing and there is no room for this 'logic' of yours.

Alex - TeamHoward have sorted the shift on his.

[hmd]

Hung - Ssshhh. We're bench racing and there is no room for this 'logic' of yours.

The 'logic' is that the cost of the car is small compared to the renovation work, in the end you don't want to over capitalize.

[Bullethead]

Yeah, I agree with all of the above... It's just an opportunity to grab a complete and running 914 at a reasonable price. You can't grab a 901 or 914/6 for the same kind of coin

You really don't need to, John... since it's not clear to some of us how your sanctioning groups classify, could you post their GCR or a link?
I'm curious why you guys think a built 1.8 wouldn't be competitive against ANY Britcar of the same displacement, cut windscreen or not.
Also, why wouldn't you be allowed to run the car Ginther style? Stripping weight is easy, FG cowl cover, doors, hoods & bumpers are all available. Your running/driving 914 find can be significantly lightened, and should be good against anything under 2 liters without going nuts $$$ wise.