911S/911L Cars for Sale

[gruen911]

This one is at Dave Maynards. http://www.europeanlocators.com/ He has very nice cars as a rule.

FWIW,
I bought this car. It is a really nice car. Front bumper has some dents and the hood has some paint chips that were poorly touched up, but the rest of the paint is almost perfect. Interior is a 9.5 out of 10, motor pulls nice, 5 speed shifts very smoothly, and the underside, rockers, trunk and battery areas are original and perfect. One of the nicest early 911 cars I have seen. Dave also was an honorable dealer. Did everything he said and there were no discrepancies.
This is not a paid endorsement!
Here are a few more pic's of "the shoe"

[Tom F.]

Another sign of a soft market?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Early...=p4506.c0.m245

[porsche911s1971]

"Another sign of a soft market?"

Not really. I got my price and "Goldie" is heading back to Zee Fatherland this weekend. ;-)

[sithot]

"Another sign of a soft market?"

Not really. I got my price and "Goldie" is heading back to Zee Fatherland this weekend. ;-)

Yes, *really*.

You may have gotten your price BUT you didn't get it here.

There is a discount for goods heading in that direction. A $50,000 car costs €33,958. A $100,000 car....€67,920.

1 Euro buys 1.47 (and change) dollars today. I'm surprised that they aren't buying everything we have "on sale" but the economies on the Continent aren't setting the world on fire either.

I hear of cars going back all the time. It will continue as long as the economy struggles and our currency remains weak.

Tom

[vipergruen]

I agree that prices in USD are attractive to Euro-based collectors, but you have to add transportation, import duties (10%) and national VAT (ususally around 17-20%) to the selling price in the US.
I usually read 1$=1Eur to take into account of the costs.

regards,
Andrea

[sithot]

G:

The VAT is a tariff that we couldn't get away with but Europe seems to find perfectly justified. I find it annoying.
Our government talks about import tariffs and catches hell from other countries for even whispering it. (I'm against tax increases.)


You really shouldn't be able to have your cake and eat it too.

Is there a black market?

Best,

Tom

[sithot]

I have heard of situations where the value of items went down considerably to avoid VAT/tariffs/taxes. Had this not happened the items would have encountered a significant price increases. Some countries have such an onerous tax system that they almost force this behavior. I mean; Who decides how much is enough?

So, does anyone want to pay me a bucket load of money for my car so I can buy a new one? "When they're buying, sell. When they're selling, buy."

There is a glut of new stuff out there!

Tom

[vipergruen]

,.... as I have recently seen some sales where the bill of sale was made for a lower value.

that's a fairly common way to lower the taxes. I've never bought a car in the US, but somebody told me that there's a way to avoid EU VAT by importing via a country where VAT is not due on historical cars. Not surprising, given that VAT regimes in EU are far from "harmonised".

Andrea

[Matthijs356]

There have been bought a lot of cars lately from the US and imported to Europe.
I live in Belgium, next to Holland and watch this:

suppose I buy a 911 2.4s for 60.000 dollar

I ship from New Jersey to Antwerp, Belgium
60000 price car
2000 container + shipping cost
12600 VAT + 6000 import tax
1000 handling fee to get it in your garage and arrange all the paperwork
81600 dollar or 55500 euros...

same thing to Rotterdam, Holland
60000 price car
1500 container + shipping cost
3600 VAT
500 handling fee ...
65600 dollar or 44600 euro!!!
after it is in Rotterdam there is no tax to get it from Rotterdam to Antwerp

What do you think about that?
It is perfectly legal...

[72targa]

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