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    I know of one that has a big number on it and as Richard stated previously, original cars are more valuable than restored cars.
    This one is pretty darn original down to the less-than-handsome color. If the car was silver it would bring 2X as much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richardnew View Post
    Let's say the car is question is worth about $300,000. That's fairly close for a really nice 911S.

    A restoration might be around $200,000. Add in the $50,000 purchase price and you come out with $250,000 in expenses. You have a $50,000 window to play with.

    You're on the financial edge with this car but it's possible
    Richard Newton
    http://porsport.com/1967_911s_coupe This has been available for months at this point .....ask $265,000 I believe......

    Anyone who would buy the discussed motor-less S with the idea of profitability must have been under a rock for the last year...... and yes your math is correct buy for $50,000 + $200,000 restoration and sell for $300,000 would net $50,000. The probability in this scenario would be extremely low as I can not believe many non matching number 67S S/R cars were selling for $300,000 even at the height of the market.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macroni View Post
    http://porsport.com/1967_911s_coupe This has been available for months at this point .....ask $265,000 I believe......

    Anyone who would buy the discussed motor-less S with the idea of profitability must have been under a rock for the last year...... and yes your math is correct buy for $50,000 + $200,000 restoration and sell for $300,000 would net $50,000. The probability in this scenario would be extremely low as I can not believe many non matching number 67S S/R cars were selling for $300,000 even at the height of the market.
    I cannot see anyone spending big money on a "non-matching non-documented story".
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    Matching numbers and documentation are no problem.

    This is the Wild West of the car market. Some of the cars I've sold have had a completely new, and fully documented, history created.

    Years ago I worked with Tom Hoving and the Metropolitan in NYC. Tom estimated at 40% of the art hanging on walls around the world was fake.

    A few decades back when the FIA checked up on vintage racers in Europe that held FIA Heritage Certificates the discovered that at least half the cars were fakes. That's when they got out of the certification business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richardnew View Post
    Matching numbers and documentation are no problem.
    This is the Wild West of the car market. Some of the cars I've sold have had a completely new, and fully documented, history created.
    Richard Newton
    Tongue in cheek?
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    Only a little bit. The car is question was an F3 car that was raced in Europe. After I sold it, and a few years passed, it became an F2 car with a new history.

    As far as re-stamps go that's a cottage industry.

    If you notice we now have two categories of cars:

    -Original Cars
    -Matching Number Cars

    Think back to your Symbolic Logic class in college.

    An Original Car will have Matching Numbers. A car with Matching Numbers though may not necessarily be an Original Car.

    Richard

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    Back further even than that, to grade school: Original cars (with matching numbers) are a subset of all cars with matching numbers.
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    In the past 15 yrs there has been at least 2 Peter Gregg # 59 cars that have been in question.
    Boyd Coddington, "American Hot Rod " , was busted by the Feds for playing with numbers on a few A/C Cobras. That was just before he died.

    Brian

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    I guess now I am really lost.

    An original car can be matching numbers with falsified documents thus this 67S can be a $300,000 car.
    The bottom line to me is this car is in very rough condition and not worth $75,000 ask.
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    Don't mind us. We're just two old guys rambling here.

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