911S/911L Cars for Sale

[DOUGS73E]

FYI, asking price for this per dealer is $285k.
[Replying to post 2611, re: https://www.cprclassic.com/vehicles/...e-911s-coupe.]

California Porsche Restoration, Fallbrook, CA
1972 Porsche 2.4L 911S Coupe
VIN: 9112300254
Engine: -
Trans: -
Color: Albert Blue (originally Light Yellow)/Red Leather (originally Black)
Mileage: 00,834 (indicated)
Price: US$285,000

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[TonyI]

California Porsche Restoration, Fallbrook, CA
1972 Porsche 2.4L 911S Coupe
VIN: 9112300254
Engine: -
Trans: -
Color: Albert Blue (originally Light Yellow)/Red Leather (originally Black)
Mileage: 00,834 (indicated)
Price: US$285,000

1972 Porsche 2.4L 911S - Albert Blue -CPR.jpg

Make darn sure CPR provides concrete proof of clear Title. Caveat Emptor.

[Bullethead]

Anyone familiar with this car? https://www.automobilia-ladenburg.de...earch/page/3?&

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Lot No.: 2599 -

PORSCHE 1968 Porsche 911T/R Sports Purpose / homologations-body chassis number: 118.2.0123 engine code (factory): 208 0161 engine code: 4080430 transmission serial number: 2280154-901/63 chassis number: 118.2.0123 construction year: 1968 the "Sports Purpose Programm"was concluded because of a too small number of pieces of the 911R from 1967, as this could otherwise not be homologated, therefore the change into the sport-prototypes-class, in which vehicles the veicles had certainly no chance against the "real" sport-prototypes, although the 911R was winning some road races like the "Tour de France" , Porsche had to construct his 911 competition vehicles on standard vehicles, that were produced in sufficient quantity - therefore the "Sports-Purpose Programm", that consists of speical parts and modifications, that could be retrofitted at many models to conform to the requirements of the specific racing categories, this Polo-red Porsche and the circa 30 further vehicles are very valuable because of the fact that the modifications were partially already made in the factory and it also contains parts of the three years ago sold RHD T/R and other Porsche "factory cars"(and also not listed in the Sports-Purpose documentations), - most notably in comparison with the many customer cars, that were afterwards equipped with "Sports-Purpose parts",with acquired knowledge of the African RHD T/R it can be confirmed, that the offered vehicle already manufactured in factory as T/R (911T for Group 3) and therefore has the modifications, that weren't available for retrofitted vehicles, among it ventilation metal works on the reverse of the roof (like at the 1967 R), cut out of the B-pillar and remove of the guide tube for removing the motor cover, welding of the bumpers covering holes (so that adhesive tape could rplace the standard facing), fitting of lighter carpet and roof liner together with the remove of the holder for the interior trim - that were the measures at this time to reduce the weight as far as possible, Porsche used the 911T as basic version for that factory care , because it were the simplest in the basic equipment and therefore also the lightest, additionally the vehicle has better brakes, chassis and was equipped with the engine of a 911S, all is listed in the FIA homologations documents, the engine case was also changed from aluminum to magnesium (Addendum 577/1/1E January 1968) and the back seats were removed, it has the number #11820123 because the vehicle was manufactured in September 1967, was absolutely correct by the owner equipped with an aluminum 2.0 "S" 901/902 engine (engine code: 4080430 / construction number: 10923 / half casings No. 258), the engine was complete new constructed with Mahle 2.0S pistons, and with the Weber 40IDS carburetor that is suitable to the engine , reconstruction exclusively with original marked parts (pre October 1967) and new wearing parts, among others: - converted gear unit with 904-mainshaft, to make possible the eplacement of the gear ratio , currently AA-E-I-O-V for the use on the "fast street", together with 901/904 ZF-limited slip differential, - Nadella lightweight -drive shafts for sport purposes refurbished and connected to LSD with correct original-Nadella-flanges, - 5.5″ x 15″ fox-wheels, complete refurbished and anodized, protected, according to the "uncompleted" wheels of the racing division at this time, - rare "new old " Leistritz-exhaust (photo shows the part number and date stamp "07 67") - original (NOS) Recaro sport seats 1968 - original Sigla 1968 windshield - original front and taillight - original dashboard 1968

Limit: 250,000,00 €

[HughH]

Russ
I dont know it at all. Also I also cant really follow the relevance of some of the things said about it in that text either.

However one thing that is clear that it is not a factory built TR but seems to be one that is built up to what an original one would have been (call it a replica, tribute or whatever)
The original engine and gearbox numbers give it away as a "normal" 1968T (the gearbox type is a typo it should be 901/03 not 901/63)
It now has the type of engine and gearbox that a TR would have had plus, it appears, a lot of the other parts such a car would have been built with.

If you really want to pick apart the detail, apart from having the wrong original spec from the factory, it is too early in the model year to be a TR, as the first ones that were sold to customers had vins in the 0400 range and even the factory "versuch" cars had vins in the mid 0300's and the factory competition cars had vins in the mid /high 0400's

I think the price expected is probably reflecting that as well but it looks like a lot of research and work has gone into it to be as close to what a TR would have been new as possible.
so i think it depends on what a buyer would be looking for - a real one would probably be a multiple of the price guide, and I suspect the cost, effort and time to replicate THIS car probably would end up well above the price suggested

[HughH]

I had a feeling by reading the description etc of this car that I knew who built it / is selling it. I checked overnight my time and I was correct.
He is a bit dismayed by the way it was described as well. he provided a lengthy word document and about 150 photos and apparently it has been paraphrased into German and then translated back into English which has garbled the description somewhat.
He says he hopes the auction house will provide the full information to anyone who has a genuine interest in the car.

Knowing the person who built this, and why, as well as the number of genuine TR's he had access to, I am sure it would be very hard to find a better "recreation" and it is likely to be a more accurate representation of what they were like new than many genuine ones around these days

[RennTyp]

I’ve seen the car up close and I can validate everything Hugh says. Extraordinary attention to detail. Probably the most faithful recreation of any 911 competition car I’ve ever seen.

[DOUGS73E]

Anyone familiar with this car? [url]https://www.automobilia-ladenburg.de/aAPI/catalogs/en/7edd3a6c33ac1704882b5c943234bf65/search/page/3?&[/url
Lot No.: 2599
Limit: €250,000,00

https://www.automobilia-ladenburg.de/aAPI/catalogs/en/ec8e73237c9fcb731a34c79888acc694/categories/3b1477a5a891635183176f6db677bf65/page/1?&sort=lbD

1968 Porsche 911T/R Sports Purpose
VIN: 11820123
Engine: 2080161 engine code: 4080430
Transmission: 2280154 (901/63)

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[DOUGS73E]

I find it odd that a LWB '69 'S' would have (1968 SWB era) 5.5"x15" Fuchs.
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RM|Sotheby's The Carrera Collection Part 2, Milan, Italy, 12 July 2023
1969 Porsche 2.0L 911S Coupe
VIN: 119300567
Engine: 6390814
Trans: 7193436
Color: Pastel(?) Blue/Black
Mileage: 00,016 km (indicated)
Auction Estimate: "No Reserve"
Sold for: €123,050 / ~US$135,602

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[HughH]

Doug
I am not sure of which blue that is - 6861 seen on the paint tag is for special wishes paint / paint to sample
it looks closer to an early blue like Golf Blue or Emailblau (356 color sky blue) to me

[DOUGS73E]

RM|Sotheby's The Carrera Collection Part 2, Milan, Italy, 12 July 2023
1970 Porsche 2.2L 911S Coupe
VIN: 9110301577
Engine: 6302227
Trans: -
Color: Burgundy Red/Black
Mileage: 31,821 km (indicated)
Auction Estimate: "No Reserve"
Sold for: NO SALE(?)

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