Special early 1964 features on 1965 cars

[pss]

I got my 356 grey ones from SM, do not know about their black quality.

[pss]

Bob the pictures you show are from two different cars
The tabs on one have clips to take a screw or bolt and the other doesnt.

Anyway I have the plain tabs on 1022

How late in production were they?

And if so I need a panel as well

I also have only seen mounts like in Bob's left picture (post 496) and combined with the carpet hooks. The ones in his right picture I have never seen, nor the board Franz showed.

I would guess Bob's right picture car is 1964 and like Franz' car does not have the carpet hooks either (Franz, Bob, pls confirm); this was a known change from 64 to 65 and I have seen no 65 car without the carpet hooks (338 does not have them but seems an anomaly?)

Ivan, on other features:
- does 1022 have a gold colored 911 logo on the dash or is it silver? This has changed between 835 and 1111, hope to pinpoint this more accurately.
- 6 fold seats changed to 5 between 984 and 1020. Can you confirm 1022 has 5?

Cheers, J

[pss]

Franz

I think you are correct. A better repro is ripe for the taking.

Regards

Jim

well at current market prices, that might be lucrative ;-(

[Ivan Fuller]

I also have only seen mounts like in Bob's left picture (post 496) and combined with the carpet hooks. The ones in his right picture I have never seen, nor the board Franz showed.

I would guess Bob's right picture car is 1964 and like Franz' car does not have the carpet hooks either (Franz, Bob, pls confirm); this was a known change from 64 to 65 and I have seen no 65 car without the carpet hooks (338 does not have them but seems an anomaly?)

Ivan, on other features:
- does 1022 have a gold colored 911 logo on the dash or is it silver? This has changed between 835 and 1111, hope to pinpoint this more accurately.
- 6 fold seats changed to 5 between 984 and 1020. Can you confirm 1022 has 5?

Cheers, J

1022 has silver 911 on dash and 5 pleats on the seats

[pss]

Txs Ivan, see also PM.

[earlyaircooled]

door latch receivers on my 717 car, note they are held on with large phillips screws not 6 or 12 point allen heads. The screws are painted black and it looks factory to me

[earlyaircooled]

door stops have threaded inserts not studs sticking out like later ones, and they have an interesting makers mark on them. At some point they switched to a stud sticking out style which would make them easier to mount.

[NeunElf]

door latch receivers on my 717 car, note they are held on with large phillips screws not 6 or 12 point allen heads. The screws are painted black and it looks factory to me

301382 also has similar screws but no traces of black paint.

They don't have the typical markings but pozidrive bits fit mine better than Phillips bits. Pozidrives are probably best known for attaching bindings to skis.

The SWB PET parts catalog [E_911-1_Katalog.pdf] lists two different length screws with the same part numbers: E 999.147.001.02 countersunk-head screw M8 x 35 and E 999.147.001.02 countersunk-head screw M8 x 40. I suspect something as common as a Phillips-head screw wouldn't get an E code.

The LWB PET parts catalog [E_911-73_Katalog.pdf] lists E 999.147.001.02 countersunk-head screw M8 x 35 and 999.219.008.00 countersunk-head screw M8 x 40. The change probably came somewhere between 1969 and 1973.

Aase has this 999.219.008.00 which takes an M8 12 point allen bit:

Prices for 999.219.008.00 countersunk-head screw M8 x 40 run from $ 9.00 to $ 19.00.

[earlyaircooled]

your screws look like they may have been originally chromed. Mine look flat and yours look a little convex to me. And your right they do look like pozidrives that were used to attach bindings to skiis.

[moito]

your screws look like they may have been originally chromed. Mine look flat and yours look a little convex to me. And your right they do look like pozidrives that were used to attach bindings to skiis.

have seen both versions..mostly the flat ones on early cars..never with black paint