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    #301111 were and are still red.

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    I thought I read what I thought was very interesting post yesterday explaining the variations in parts from one car to another due to the relative small size of the Porsche factory and the challenges it had establishing relationships with its vendors. The post did a lot to show that early Porsches were NOT all cookie-cutter cars. Now that post is gone! I must've been dreaming.
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    Checked the heater flappers a bit further... no splines on the axle (just rust )

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris_seven View Post
    If you look carefully in the sill area you will also find that the carpets have been 'nailed' in place with some relatively long tacks - There are typically 5-6 of these tacks each side.

    I do have some photographs buried away and will try to find them.
    have been off grid for a while.
    txs Chris, would be great to have a picture.
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    So much material in this thread so not sure if already mentioned, but while refinishing wood dash on 1744 discovered that base to which wood veneer is applied is actually made from white molded plastic. Only the ashtray piece is made entirely of wood. The beveled edges of the white plastic are painted flat black to hide color. On other SWB dashes I’ve restored the dash base is made from a lesser quality wood, not plastic. Strange that they would start with plastic and then switch to wood for dash bases on later cars. Has anyone else experienced this?
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    Wood dash base

    John, the 1964 and early 1965 that I have worked with were molded compressed wood composite.

    Did your later plastic core have the face bevel and the edge bevel also?

    Note the very early dashes were from six pieces, there is a joint in the radio panel - just above the ashtray. From about spring 1965 it became a single panel, for a total of five parts.

    (Sorry for the bottom pieced together photo - reflections are hard to work with).
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    Bob:

    Pretty sure face and edge are beveled -- looks like they add the veneer and then bevel trim -- but I'll check. my 1744 is five piece, no split at radio. Also, my backing appears to be a hard plastic molded in white -- not compressed wood composite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John912 View Post
    So much material in this thread so not sure if already mentioned, but while refinishing wood dash on 1744 discovered that base to which wood veneer is applied is actually made from white molded plastic. Only the ashtray piece is made entirely of wood. The beveled edges of the white plastic are painted flat black to hide color. On other SWB dashes I’ve restored the dash base is made from a lesser quality wood, not plastic. Strange that they would start with plastic and then switch to wood for dash bases on later cars. Has anyone else experienced this?
    301382 was similar to what you found. I re-did the dash about 15 years ago so I can't guarantee it's a now an historically correct exemplar.
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    From Bob:
    John, the 1964 and early 1965 that I have worked with were molded compressed wood composite.

    Did your later plastic core have the face bevel and the edge bevel also?

    Response:

    Yes, face and edge beveled as shown in photo. But literally "digging deeper" found that the hard white plastic material is only a coating, underneath is composite wood. Assume they abandoned this plastic coating process later on...
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    Not sure if this has been mentioned already, but when removing the window regulators from 301744 noticed round metal rollers as opposed to 66 and later rectangular plastic. Just in case someone ever documents all of this....
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