Special early 1964 features on 1965 cars

[eprnjp]

Info about dates and profiles of early 911 and 912 door seals.

[Brett Johnson]

Here's new 4 screw grille data:

454309 = 4 screw grilles -- invoice date: January 4, 1966 -- did not sell until August 15!

454382 = 4 screw grilles -- invoice date: January 3, 1966
454431 = 2 screw grilles -- invoice date: January 5, 1966

303404 = 2 screw grilles -- invoice date: January 10, 1966

Anybody else?

[eprnjp]

454376 = 4 screw 3 gauge 912
353474 = 2 screw 3 gauge 912 S/R

[Brett Johnson]

Have invoice/build dates -- especially on the Porsche-built 912. The 454### cars in my list are all Karmann-built 912s.

[moito]

The 454### cars in my list are all Karmann-built 912s.

what else should they be ?...as far as i understand 45xxxx indicates that they are Karmann built 912--or did i miss something?

[Brett Johnson]

Sorry, I was asked to clarify that,

[72targa]

Sorry, I was asked to clarify that,

No need to apologize. Good info always appreciated.

[Brett Johnson]

454376 = January 14, 1966
353474 = June 16, 1966

[Brett Johnson]

Updated bumper text:

The first chrome-plated steel bumper guard version was standard on all 1965 and early 1966 911/912 models. These first guards had a plain upper rear surface and were replaced in April/May 1965 with guards that had slots at the top.

A second type guard which was chrome-plated with a rubber cover was introduced in October 1965, became standard on 911 and 912 models in the US for 1966 and optional elsewhere.

Another variety was the guard for S-trim first used on the 1967 911S. These were all of the rubber-covered variety and differed only in the cut-out for the trim strip (page ##). These were also standard on the 1968 US spec. 911L. All other models used the earlier style guards with or without optional rubber covers.

The steel guards with the slot at the top were replaced by ones with black plastic inserts at the upper rear in MONTHS GO HERE 1967 during the 1968 model year. Because of the two different styles of bumper trim, two coachbuilders and bumper guards being a final assembly piece, there is no precise time/chassis number when this change occurred.

[Brett Johnson]

Here is a fun one from my friend Jules Dielen. I believe it answers an ongoing discussion.