Are these Fuchs 15x7R 911R rims(or replica's)?

[Bart de Bruijn]

Hi all,

after 18 years of restoration of my 911T 2.0 from ’69, I am almost ready and started to check and inspect my Fuchs rims.

Now after some reading I tried to find stampings on my rims. I could not find any, except the fabrication date stamped neer the center cap hole (see picture).
Now I read some stories about no stamping on these rims and only rubber stamps that fade away over the years. My spare wheel is an 15x5.5J fuchs with all the stamping (including fox head) in.
Comparing these to rims on shape/indentions from the forging on the inner side and the paint patterns on the inner side they are 100% identical…..
The measured ET(Einpress Tiefe) is approx. 31.1 mm [ |(7*25.4)/2 - 120(=measured distance from rim edge to hub contactarea)|
What I understood is that 7R’s (should) have a ET of 49.
The date stamp (see picture) are on two wheels different but at the same position. Another rim has 3.68 (March 1968 I guess. However the rim on the pictures ha
I made some pictures for clarification.

If someone could shine some light on this I would be grateful ;-))

Cheers,
Bart
(from the lowlands)

[Harvey Weidman]

Those wheels are Fuchs.
The inside barrels look like 6X15s. The 7R inside barrel is more tapered and doesn't have that bump.
Sounds like you measured the wheel from outside to outside. Wheels are measured inside where the tire sets.
If you are using this method to figure offset, it is not correct. The backspace of a 7R is about 5 3/4" ~ 146mm
120mm is about right for a 6X15 back space.
If the 11/67 wheels are 6X15s, then they are the ....03 wheels. An early version of the 6X15 (06) wheel.
The 3/68 would also be a 03 if it is a 6X15. (03 were also ink stamp wheels....)
What is the date of your 5.5?
I would guess that your car came with steel wheels and at some point they were changed to Fuchs as the dates don't match a MY69 911.
In my opinion, if they are 03 wheels, you would be better off selling them and buying 69 6X15 Fuchs and pocket the difference....
HTH
H

[BartdeBruijn]

Those wheels are Fuchs.
The inside barrels look like 6X15s. The 7R inside barrel is more tapered and doesn't have that bump.
Sounds like you measured the wheel from outside to outside. Wheels are measured inside where the tire sets.
If you are using this method to figure offset, it is not correct. The backspace of a 7R is about 5 3/4" ~ 146mm
120mm is about right for a 6X15 back space.
If the 11/67 wheels are 6X15s, then they are the ....03 wheels. An early version of the 6X15 (06) wheel.
The 3/68 would also be a 03 if it is a 6X15. (03 were also ink stamp wheels....)
What is the date of your 5.5?
I would guess that your car came with steel wheels and at some point they were changed to Fuchs as the dates don't match a MY69 911.
In my opinion, if they are 03 wheels, you would be better off selling them and buying 69 6X15 Fuchs and pocket the difference....
HTH
H

Hi Harvey,

Yeah, you are totally right(I did measure from outside to outside, not realizing that the upstanding area is that thick....!
(stupid me....)
My 5.5" spare tire fuchs has the date stamp 668 (june '68) However another of the set that obviously are not 15x7J but 15x6J has not the shown in the picture 1167 but 368!
I will check the other soon just out of curiosity ;-)
What are " 03 wheels"? Why do you suggest to sell them and go for 69 6x15 wheels as 6x15 is not original to this car.....

Thanks for the quick reply!

Bart

[70SATMan]

Hi Harvey,


What are " 03 wheels"? Why do you suggest to sell them and go for 69 6x15 wheels as 6x15 is not original to this car.....

Thanks for the quick reply!

Bart

"03" is a reference to the Fuch part number suffix.... like the suffix for stamped deep sixes is "06".

He is completely correct that the only Fuch that would be correct for your 69T is a six inch wheel including your spare.

[Harvey Weidman]

A 69My car should have 901 361 012 06 wheels 6X15. Dated from about 8/68-7/69 depending on your production date.
However, there is some (flimsy) evidence that some of the early 69 911Ts and 912s may have had leftover 5.5X15s. That is why I asked for the 5.5 date.
The earlier (03) 6X15s are from the race department and were used in the front of the 911Rs.
They (03) were also used on other cars (both street and race) until the production 06 wheels became available around 8/68.
The 03 wheels have more value than the correct wheels.
H