1972 911T Canadian Equipment?

[422flat6]

Does anyone know whether 911T cars delivered to Canada for the 1972 model year would have been equipped with MFI or carbs? How did US and Canadian cars differ?

My car is a '72 "T" with MFI, speedometer in MPH, and front turn signal housings with "USA" cast into the reflectors near the bulbs. It has H4s now but the previous owner says it had sugar scoops on it when he bought it.

Where was the VIN located for Canadian cars? On the driver's side A-pillar plate like for the US?

This is potentially critical to getting my car registered in California. Apparently foreign market cars 1968 and newer must comply with US EPA emissions to be registered in California despite being exempt from those same regulations at the federal level due to being more than 25 years old.

[FL-Frank]

I'm 99% certain my '72 was originally delivered to Canada. It has MFI, and the VIN plate is rivetted to the driver's side A Pillar.

[Harvey Weidman]

The VIN should be in the same locations as the others.
The alu plate by the hood latch.
The stamped number between the gas tank and the gas heater box (Slang smugglers box)
And probably the A drivers pillar alu plate. (if it doesn't, it should still pass the ID verification with the other two numbers.
Cal smog shouldn't be a problem as <76 aren't currently tested.
And I think Canada had the same smog in 72....A mechanic should be able to verify if it is the same.....
I think they were lumped in with the USA cars at the time?
They might be referring to DOT safety etc....
HTH
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[422flat6]

Frank, Harvey thanks for the replies. Still working on the registration thing.

Does anyone know if Canadian cars would have had European or USA style turn signal lenses? What about the speedometer? Kph or Mph?

[jrbennett]

1972 Canadian spec T would be the same as the US spec.
USA stamped on the signal housings, solid orange front lenses and red rear lenses, "Sugar Scoupe" headlights, MPH speedo (switched to kph around '76), MFI engine, VIN tag on a-pillar, VIN decal in drivers door jamb

USA and Canada shared the exact same specs until the mid '70s, and the later changes were only minor.

The main differences were kph speedo introduced around '76, temp gauge in celcius, oil level in litres
Brake warning lght in Canada (!)), in USA BRAKE
Some engines had slightly different emissions equipment during the late '70s and early '80s
Canada had the 930 all through the '80s, and was still available in Canada without a catalytic convertor once it was re-introduced to the US market around '86
Some later changes on all Canadian cars also included a mounting point for child seat tether strap, introduced around '87 MY. Daytime running lights standard on cars prduced since December '89

[422flat6]

Thanks! Great info. That's matching up with everything I see on and know about my car, and PCNA has confirmed that it was a Canadian delivery car. I'm working with them to get an emissions compliance letter written to appease the state of California. The speedo in MPH seemed strange to me, but if they didn't even install a KPH speedo (which seemingly would have been very easy to do) then Canadian and US cars must have really been the exact same spec back then. One thing I don't have is a fasten seatbelt light. Should a car with a 2/72 build date have a fasten seatbelt light?

[NorthernThrux]

Canada didn't metrify speeds until 1977. So all the earlier cars would have had speedos in mph.
I can look up the wiring diagram in the workshop manuals and check on the fasten seat belt light if someone doesn't confirm. My 1973 has a buzze. It has a pressure tape on the passenger side to inactivate the buzzer when no one is sitting there. Look for wires coming out of the seat belt receptacles. If they are there, you should have a belt warning system. But I think it is only a buzzer, not a light.

Ravi

[422flat6]

Does anyone have a Canadian delivery car with the original VIN sticker in the door jamb? If so, would you be willing to send me a photo of it? I need some evidence to educate Porsche and the authorities that Canadian delivery cars met US standards in the late 60s to early 70s. As you might imagine, 40+ years later Porsche doesn't really know the answer.

[larwik]

Hopefully this will help?.../ Lars...

https://help.cbp.gov/app/answers/det...r-personal-use

[911T1971]

by 1970 and after, all "Distributors and Dealers list" combine the United States and Canada.
I do have a "1973 Specifications" booklet published by Volkswagen Canada Ltd and autorised by Porsche&Audi, the main US importer.
It might not give an answer to all issues but still period document, one of the rare I have for Canada.