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    Call me Riff Raff. I dared to discuss the relative merits of repro parts called correct with a well respected seller of same. I have been asked to return the last part I bought from him because I have been deemed unworthy. Kind of reminds me of a Seinfeld episode. I try to make everyone who does business with me happy and hope to be treated the same. Call me Riff Raff, Repro Police.

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    Welcome to the club. I wonder if Chuck has already been asked to remove you from the registry. I had that happen to me twice.

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    If you think that the excellent parts and accessories that are being reproduced are poisoning the over inflated original parts market, then don't buy them. Easy enough.
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    Good to see that I have company.

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    I like to buy better parts than stock - more engineering and advanced technology allow the aftermarket to make things better than the factory did in the 1960s or early 1970s. There is a long list: SSI, PMO, Elephant Racing etc.

    I don't know if Peter would like it but I'm sure the old man would.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 37yrold911 View Post
    I like to buy better parts than stock - more engineering and advanced technology allow the aftermarket to make things better than the factory did in the 1960s or early 1970s. There is a long list: SSI, PMO, Elephant Racing etc.

    I don't know if Peter would like it but I'm sure the old man would.
    And yet, which restored car is worth more? One using in-the-box NOS parts or one with aftermarket?

    I won't even bother answering that question.

    I'll let the market sort that out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Beck View Post
    And yet, which restored car is worth more? One using in-the-box NOS parts or one with aftermarket?

    I won't even bother answering that question.

    I'll let the market sort that out.
    The interesting thing is, if the parts are high enough fidelity to the originals, it only takes a changes of ownership for that information to completely disappear to history. NOS vs NO-Remanufactured... who will be the wiser?
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    Quote Originally Posted by oscillon View Post
    The interesting thing is, if the parts are high enough fidelity to the originals, it only takes a changes of ownership for that information to completely disappear to history. NOS vs NO-Remanufactured... who will be the wiser?
    This reminds me of the fake vs real female body part debate. If you want them to look perfect, buy the aftermarket augmentation. (Or... let the husband before you buy them.)

    If you want intrinsic, imperfect character, nothing beats what God and the Dr. built.

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    Over inflated? Perhaps to some. When I let my 40 year stash go, it will be for all the money.

    The guy who took the path of least resistance with a full repro redo will want to get the same price as the guy who faithfully RESTORED a car. Funny thing huh? The full repro car is mere facsimile. I remember some 356 events where there was so much repro stuff hung on the cars like tree ornaments, that there was literally no vestige of originality other than the car's shape. Ever heard of Victor Miles? He specializes in restorations of original ancillary parts. I'm sure there are others. So you can go either way with the parts. But I think the original as possible cars will always fetch more. Perfection is a fool's errand and it is not the way it was. The PCA probably had a hand in this with the Manhattan Trophy etc. Those PCA concours are really cleaning contests. Originality be damned. Now though, the top of the heap is the survivor.

    The repro parts are not effecting the original parts market in my view. I like repro parts, they have a place, especially the good stuff like Eric's. But there are two distinct markets. Look at the hood badge market. Every one seems to want a perfect car with a beat up hood badge for 495 USD.

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