65 car with blue interior

[Mashmotor]

We have MY 65 car and the COA said blue interior.
What should be the seat inlays color? Blue basket-wave?

Any picture?

[brookedale091462]

My 65 originally came with "Blue Leatherette/F' according to COA.
I would assume this is going to be a blue vinyl in the general look of a late model 356 seat.
I have no pics.

[Semjon]

Seat inlay is not stated on the COA? Maybe try getting the Kardex, there it can be stated.
Mine came with blue interior and the inlay should be "cords perle" which is corduroy.
Some pics of blue interior here;

http://www.early911sregistry.org/forums/showthread.php?109817-Model-year-66-interior-questions

[Mashmotor]

Kardex only said "blue interior" nothing else.
With corduroy can be really nice!!!
Thanks!

Seat inlay is not stated on the COA? Maybe try getting the Kardex, there it can be stated.
Mine came with blue interior and the inlay should be "cords perle" which is corduroy.
Some pics of blue interior here;

http://www.early911sregistry.org/forums/showthread.php?109817-Model-year-66-interior-questions

[NeunElf]

You haven't actually said what your car is. A '65 could be either a 911 or a 912 (or a 356C) and it makes a difference. The actual build date of your car also makes a difference.

I've never seen an a period brochure or a respected book that says Porsche did blue interiors in 1965 911s or 912s, but clearly there are cars with blue interiors and some folks have Kardexes or Certificates of Authenticity to prove it.

Here's a brochure you can download from http://www.porsche.com/international...ourcharts911f/. It's identified as a 1965 brochure but it's late 1965 (i.e. 1966 model year).

The interior color codes were:

A - Red
B - Black
C - Brown
D - Beige

911s could get "Pepita Check" seat inlays

A/P2 - Red with black-red-white houndstooth
B/P2 - Black with black-white houndstooth
C/P3 - Brown - with black-brown-white houndstooth

912s could get corduroy seat inlays

A/C1 - Red with red corduroy seat inlay
B/C2 - Black with black corduroy seat inlay
C/C3 - Brown with cognac corduroy seat inlay
D/C4 - Beige with stone grey corduroy seat inlay

Blue interiors were listed for 356Cs--the interior code was "F" and it was normally just for Dolphin Grey cars. Brett Johnson's The 356 Porsche A Restorer's Guide to Authenticity says the code for Blue Leatherette with a "Pearl Grey" corduroy insert was "F/C."

I doubt a blue interior would have had houndstooth; I don't think Porsche ever had a houndstooth that would have gone well with blue. But, nobody can proove there was never such a thing as a special order. I found a Kardex on line for a 356C with "Pepita" inserts for a red interior.

Anyway, if your Kardex says something like "Kordsamt" or "F/C" it probably had Pearl Grey corduroy inserts, otherwise it probably had leatherette inserts.

LEATHERETTE INSERTS

The early 1965 911s with leatherette inserts didn't have basketweave inserts, they had perforated leatherette inserts like 356Cs (and perforated leatherette seat backs). I don't know when the change to basketweave came but I'd guess it was no later than the late summer shutdown since that Porsche color chart above shows basketweave for the 1966 model year.

[Jules Dielen]

post your vin, we can dig a little

[Mashmotor]

The car is a 911 Vin 30056X and paint code is 6206 silver metalic.
It can use the 356 interior style ?!

Thanks for digging

[NeunElf]

I think perforated leatherette is most probably correct for 30056X.

Porsche did change seats after chassis number 301045 but aside from the part numbers (available in the parts catalog) the only thing that's definite is that from chassis 301046 leather seats are cataloged. We do know that the earliest seats have 6 pleats and perforated vinyl. Here's a picture from an April 1965 brochure:

That photo had to have been taken well before April 1965--I added the pleat numbers. This will make it more clear that this is perforated leatherette, not basketweave:

Brett Jounson's The 911 & 912 Porsche, A Restorer's Guide to Authenticity has a picture captioned "Basket weave vinyl inserts on 1965 911 seats" but doesn't give a chassis number.

In the thread Final tread on transition from 65-66 model yr! pss has narrowed down the six pleat to five pleat transition to somewhere between 300984 and 301318, so 301045 seems likely.

Unless someone has certain knowledge, it seems likely that perforated vinyl was used on seat inserts and seat backs up to chassis 301045.

[John Straub]

Jim, is there anyplace you can find the seats changing from 6 to 5 pleats? Do you think it is 301045? I've been trying to lock that down. Any ideas?

Thanks,
John

[NeunElf]

Jim, is there anyplace you can find the seats changing from 6 to 5 pleats? Do you think it is 301045? I've been trying to lock that down. Any ideas?

Thanks,
John

Sorry, the best I have is Jacques' spreadsheet showing 300984 had six pleats and 301318 had five pleats.

The parts catalog shows that seat part numbers changed from 901.521.001.20/901.521.002.20 to 901.521.001.22/901.521.002.22 starting at chassis number 301046.

The only thing that's definite about that seat change is that part numbers for leather seats and different seats for Right-Hand Drive cars appear from 301046 on.

It seems that the most likely last car with six pleats and perforated vinyl (assuming it wasn't Pepita) was 301045 but I can't be more definite than "most likely."