DOM key number card

[911GP]

Hello,

I have seen a couple of variations on the DOM key number card. For those of you with original version, could you please post photos of both sides of your card along with your model year?

Many thanks
Gitesh

[911MRP]

… Gitesh are you suggesting folks post image the factory number of the key set that will unlock and start their pride and joy openly on the www?

[911GP]

Hi Steve,
I think that would be asking for too much! Photos should not show anything specific to a car. If you have a VIN number on there please blank it out before posting (or cover it up with some masking tape). Same goes for the actual key number if you wish.

Thanks
Gitesh

[HughH]

Gitesh
As Clyde said in the other thread:

• there are two cards (at least for the early cars) one being for the Main Key and the other for the Secondary key. They are different.
• I have an original one (not for my current car) and a "Carl" one for the current car (a July 1973 built 73E). Both are "main key cards"

Below are the front and back of both. The "Carl" one with the red key attached.
To my eyes they look the same and there is no evidence on the original one of any sticker or written vin number on it ever

The one thing I would note is the stamp font is different but I dont know if that changed from yer to year or not or Carl missed that detail

[911MRP]

This is an image from Snodgrass’ excellent 2.7 Carrera book. Acknowledgements to Ryan. While it’s in the public domain in hard copy book I have redacted some of the digits for purposes of posting on www. This image shows both the cards and one shows a vin sticker Clearly from a 930 it is later than 73. I don’t know the heritage of the example he used but I suppose original on a reference book of that type? From a quick look the stamp seems to be somewhat similar to the known OBP repro Hugh posted. Different smaller than the one Hugh says is an original. Did this stamp change? Perhaps on close inspection other printed details differ compared to older ones. Also note the plastic tie wrap variance. I know of some cars got handwritten cards with and without a yellow vin sticker — looks to be regular ballpoint rather than being ink stamped — the shape of the digits on those were the distinctive way numbers were sometimes handwritten in Germany and Continental Europe ( eg the 1 etc)

Steve

[911MRP]

While I don’t know the car featured on this old post so can’t say if what’s shown is original key with a DDM card however the impression frim the other survivor items seem likely
See post #2
https://www.early911sregistry.org/fo...cumented-Miles

I didn’t redact anything as this image already posted on the above thread

[911MRP]

Don’t know this car either so can’t vouch for it but key card is displayed openly on www in an old sales advert. RHD and claiming to be original key with sticker. Note it’s 911250 xxxx not 911 210. Clyde and Gitesh who seem to need one are in RHD markets so is that green colour somehow relevant? Don’t recall seeing a green vin sticker on a DOM key card ones I’ve seen are yellow and slightly translucent. Seems great condition key card but lost it’s black tie wrap? I’ve seen so many with the yellow doubt those were green vin sticker before ageing and fading to the familiar? Just one those anomalies assuming green is indeed original to car. This example has three (not four key no digits) stamped on key card.

https://borderreivers.co/portfolio/porsche-911t-1972/

Once again since image is already on the www openly so I didn’t redact any of the DOM card digits but would delete or redact if current owner realises then wishes to have privacy ?


Steve

[blucille]

You know. It’s remarkably easy to make a key from a photograph of a key. In fact, I was able to do this with a not-so-local locksmith while a friend broke his key on a 911, by the time we drove to his shop, he had a new key waiting for us.

just use some common sense, I know it's easy to get into these cars, but combined with your user name and google, most of us could be found fairly easily.

[911MRP]

Some cars of 70s probably could've opened and driven them away using a wooden lollipop stick ��.

When clarifying Gitash’s request it occurred to me if someone posted their car key and key number images with vin on the open www then coincidentally the car happened to disappear that might be an interesting call with insurer. Even if not cause.

In the U.K. if it is deemed someone is careless with their car keys most policies now have wording to deny a theft claim. Tailored to modern cars where the security uses electronics and requires key in lock or in proximity than the simple early 911. But these old cars not cheap. Our DIM key oesn’t require a faraday pouch in ones own home like some are being recommended to do for certain marques where the car can be sarted when key is inside home and car nearby in driveway. But telling whole world the replacement key number for locks of a six figure asset is probably frowned upon.

That why unless key image ans details was already out here or on www generally I redacted what I posted.

Steve

[911MRP]

This is what the English language drivers manual had to say about the subject. I had this image to hand so on my phone not sure what year. I’ve not checked to pretty sure this is one of the .20 suffix drivers manual for British market and other english speaking parts of what’s called Rest of world. Aus, SA etc etc If important I can check if source of this excerpt is the original model year 73 manual that came with my car :



Taken as read it seems from the “instructions” they all ought to have had vin sticker on a (typically yellow) coloured label plus a small key number sticker on the head of key itself at time this written. It could be the vin sticker was often deliberately removed but don’t get why that would be the case? I suspect some might not have come the vin sticker because so many extant without. Clear the instructions to put tag away safe in case need to reorder — not plausible these easily torn tags all saw so much use that just the vin label only wore off. The existence of handwritten examples in significant numbers suggest it was a bit more haphazard in practice than the paragraph implies.

Steve