I am looking to buy the proper jack for a 1973 911 RS. Thanks for any help!
Concept42
I am looking to buy the proper jack for a 1973 911 RS. Thanks for any help!
Concept42
This may be of some help: https://www.early911sregistry.org/fo...reen-dot-jacks
No such thing as an RS jack, it was the same as all normal production cars and may have varied depending on when your RS was made like the production cars of the same time frame.
Clyde Boyer
1973 2.4E Coupe RHD Aussie 5 speed
1973 2.4E Coupe RHD Aussie 5 speed my first ever 911 (1995)
1997 993 Twin Turbo
Early S Registry Member #294
First Aussie R Gruppe Member #366
TYP 901 Register Inc #6
Well my RS is number 1526 Produced in June 73 for a July sale. Does that help narrow down what the jack would be? Does anyone seeing this have one for sale? Thanks for the help!
While no absolutes on such accessories there are general patterns so a bilstein green dot screw jack with teardrop shaped handle and the folded metal ( not later longer cast) peg is probably most authentic for a third series RS.
As others said no difference for 73 RS to contemporary 73 TES. Your vin is quite a late RS and by then the RS model had become essentially a production car in many ways so even less chance it would have got different jack to the 73TES madd the same month as your RS no longer made different special way for homologation / converted in different workshop after fact.
The lollipop handle vs the several tear-shaped handles are small detail but lollipop with kink to handle giving more clearance to knuckles is probably a tad earlier than the teardrop variants which is why I suggest seeking a teardrop shaped green dot handle.
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There are even subtle differences within the teardrop handles regarding those handle length and the pressed indentations in which point to the design evolving or perhaps was made different factories. Not something I have delved into as my RS being first 500 series had the lollipop kinked version.
As said no absolutes so the accessories such as jack with a bilstein screw design through the year RS probably had different details (such as handle) so it’s possible an earlier example kicking around at the time and place when the actual car and its accessories got put in it shortly before car was delivered to customer.
Having said no absolutes, because of discernible patterns to what jack typically got supplied when, I’d question the provinence of a green dot with solid cast peg like this if said to be original to a 73 RS as that type are generally associated with the G series.
IMG_9770.jpg. But given no absolutes perhaps they began seen late late model 73 cycle but to me carry a suspicion of being a later replacment if I see in in an RS. Similarly I would query the claim of earlier style jacks in a 73 RS — certainly in RS produced so late in model 73 as yours.
Regarding the proof literature: The original maroon paper parts books for 72/73 show jack 914.721.011.10 for all 911 models. The 73 TES drivers owners handbook clearly shows a bilstein of screw type but with “up and down” wording in black on the lighter (yellow) dot of the lollipop-shaped handle.
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rather than the commonly seen green dot.
The RS blue supplement doesn’t show a jack if I recall correctly.
The drivers owners handbook photos used by factory are not always representative of what went into final production for the model however while “ up/down” yellow dot version illustrated in the 73 TES book photo are uncommon this variation does actually exist. Pretty sure this is a photo of my example:
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There are various posts about jacks scattered around the ESR forum but for some reason their evolution is not covered as thoroughly as things like the font on toolkit wrenches / spanner’s.
I don’t have a jack for sale but maybe these comments help you find something “appropriate” for a very late third series RS. Others might chip in and might disagree.
Steve
Last edited by 911MRP; 09-27-2024 at 09:36 AM.
Interesting as always Steve, never seen the yellow up down version, in fact first I have ever heard of it.I see elsewhere it is mentioned as a VW jack back as the pic you posted shows it is in the English/ROW 911 manual as late as 2/73 printing.
My April 73 E has the short tear drop no kink, which lines up with most others, I always assumed the kink version was later as to me it is an improvement as it saves your knuckles.
Last edited by BOYER73S; 09-28-2024 at 08:07 PM.
Clyde Boyer
1973 2.4E Coupe RHD Aussie 5 speed
1973 2.4E Coupe RHD Aussie 5 speed my first ever 911 (1995)
1997 993 Twin Turbo
Early S Registry Member #294
First Aussie R Gruppe Member #366
TYP 901 Register Inc #6
Version with kinked lollipop shape is shown in the 9/72 edition of the drivers (owners) manual it is well known the tear drop flatter handle was used sometime in calendar 73 and continued through into the G series impact bumper suggesting the kinked handle (with more space for knuckles) is probably the earlier form of the
screw jacks that superseded the very different lever
-operated designs Porsche had previously used for 911.
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This second photo from a different angle is also in my original model 73 TES glovebox manual (print date 9/72 English language edition).
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It may not be representative of all the variants Porsche used in during model 73 production run but the photo certainly shows that a lollipop shaped handle with a pronounced kink existed in calendar 1972. At least for the session with sufficient lead time ahead of the 73 model launch such that the book could be produced translated printed and distributed in time for the refreshed model to have the correct 73 TES handbooks in sufficient quantities for all the country markets.
These same two photo were used through 5/73 in German and USA version of same owner booklet by which time the tear drop green was a commonly seen version of hack in cars so another case where frugal Porsche didn’t bother to update the photos in the handbook for such a small detail.
Note also the one they used in this photo clearly had folded metal “peg” (with distinctive curved indented marks on the vertical sides), rather than solid cast version of the peg that is typically used with G series cars.
This is the part number for jack in the maroon spare 72/73 factory spare parts book (original hard copy in maroon ring binder) not the PET online version or reprint
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The print date and edition is bottom left also same in my 72/73 parts books with later edition page supplements from calendar 73 — 914 prefix to the jack part number for all 911 models, not 901 or 911 prefix.
Steve
Last edited by 911MRP; 09-29-2024 at 04:04 PM.