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Thread: 911 ST Engine Specs

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    Cool 911 ST Engine Specs

    Falling down the slippery slope...In my quest for more horsepower I am considering building one of the ST spec motors for my Vintage racer...I am looking to the collective knowledge of this forum to help me fill in the blanks... I am trying to keep it as close to original specs as I can...This is what I think I know based on Bruce Anderson's Performance Handbook and Patrick Paternie's Porsche 911 Red Book...Is there any other reference books I should pick up ??

    2.3 - 2247 cc
    Bore - 85 mm
    Stroke - 66 mm
    Compression ratio - 10.3
    Twin plugged heads ???
    Intake Valve - 46 mm ???
    Exhuast Valve - 40 mm ???
    Cam - 906
    Case - Magnesium or aluminum ??
    Cylinders - Biral or Nikasil ??
    Rods - S ??
    Fuel Injection or Weber 46 IDAs

    2.4 - 2380 cc
    Bore - 87.5
    Fuel injection
    Everything else same as 2.3 ??

    2.5SS - 2466 cc
    Bore - 89 mm
    Cylinders - Nikasil
    Everything else same as 2.3 ??

    2.5LS - 2492 cc
    Bore - 86.7 mm
    Stroke - 70.4 mm
    Mechanical injection
    Everything else same as 2.3 ??

    TIA
    Peter
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  2. #2
    Paul Fere's Porsche 911 Story is another good reference.
    1971 911S, 2.7RS spec MFI engine, suspension mods, lightened
    Early 911S Registry Member #425

  3. #3
    Thanks...on the list...
    Peter
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  4. #4

    Talking

    I know there has been some incredible examples of ST cars built by members (Milou and Gabe's come to mind) of this forum with a tremendous amount of information on period correctness but very few details on the engines....If anyone is building any such engines it would be nice to know the build specs which would be a great reference for others going forward...There is a vast amount of knowledge on this forum, let's document this....
    The hot rodders and vintage racers on this forum, please feel free to add your 2.3 and 2.5 motor build specs here as well (Chad P, Mark S, Kenikh...)
    Peter
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    2010 VW Touareg TDI - Torque Monster
    2010 Radical SR3RS - CSR Sports Racer
    Don't Drive Faster than your Guardian Angel can Fly...

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    2.5 short stroke ST engine

    The 2.5 short stroke
    Cams: 906 (center lube) with mfi
    Crank: 66mm
    P&C: Mahle 89mm Nikasil providing 10.3 CR
    Rods: Nitrided steel S - Ti rods not homologated for ST
    Heads: twin plug; 46mm intakes; 40mm exhausts; 41mm i&e ports
    Induction: 2R High Butterfly with Bosch mechanical fi pump
    Distributor: Marelli twin spark with 30mm neck
    Case: mag
    Chain box covers: mag/center lube
    Oil cooling: case mounted cooler replaced by 906 grenade filter; bi lateral fender mount coolers
    Fan: small 225mm 906 style fan
    Exhaust manifolds: spageti
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    Thumbs up

    Thanks Tom...That's the type of info I'm looking for !!!
    Peter
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    2010 VW Touareg TDI - Torque Monster
    2010 Radical SR3RS - CSR Sports Racer
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    Factory Pic of 2.5 / The Speed Merchants

    Mike Keyser spotted this one at the factory race dept (scan courtesy of Jim Calzia). Note the proto drilled exhaust carrier and non-drilled engine mount bar.
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    I responed to your Pelican thread.

    Give me a minute and I will copy and paste
    1971 911S, 2.7RS spec MFI engine, suspension mods, lightened
    Early 911S Registry Member #425

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    The 2,3 and all of the other ST engines were Magnesium crankcase.

    They had Biral cylinders until the 2,5 liter with 66mm stroke was introduced as the very last variant. This was made possible by the 89mm Nickasil cylinders. The 66mm stroke revved faster and lessened the vibration problems in the crankshaft on the 70.4mm stroke crankshaft, which had caused flywheels to come loose.

    ST engines all had 10,5:1 compression ratios, though there may have been some special factory cars (916 engine?).

    According to Paul Fere's Porsche 911 Story:

    911/20 and 911/22: 2,247cc (85mm bore x 66mm stroke)
    power: 230 PS @ 8000 rpm
    valve diameter intake/exhaust: 45mm/39mm
    valve lift intake/exhaust: 12.1mm/10.5mm
    911/20 = injected 911/22 = Webers

    911/21: 2,380cc (87.5mm bore x 66mm stroke)
    power: 250 PS @ 8000 rpm
    valve dia. intake/exhaust: 45mm/39mm
    valve lift intake/exhaust: 12.1mm/10.5mm
    injected

    911/70: 2,494cc (86.7mm bore x 70.4mm stroke)
    power: 275 PS @ 8000 rpm
    valve dia. intake/exhaust: 46mm/40mm
    valve lift intake/exhaust: 12.1mm/10.5mm
    port diameter intake/exhaust: 41mm/41mm
    injected

    911/73: 2,466cc (89mm bore x 66mm stroke)
    power: 275 PS @ 8000 rpm
    valve dia. intake/exhaust: 46mm/40mm
    valve lift intake/exhaust: 12.1mm/10.5mm
    port diameter intake/exhaust: 41mm/41mm
    injected
    1971 911S, 2.7RS spec MFI engine, suspension mods, lightened
    Early 911S Registry Member #425

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    Great info Flieger...Did Paul Fere say if all the ST motors were twin plugged ??
    All photos I have seen idicate that they were...

    There is some confusion on Compresson ratios...According to what you posted, Paul Fere stated that they were 10.5 where Patrick Paternie in the Porsche Red book have them at 10.3...

    What about cams...Did they all use the 906 cam ??

    Thanks again for sharing...
    Peter
    Early 911S Registry #1224
    911 T/R Inspired Vintage Racer - Retired
    2010 VW Touareg TDI - Torque Monster
    2010 Radical SR3RS - CSR Sports Racer
    Don't Drive Faster than your Guardian Angel can Fly...

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