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Thread: 2.4S engine rebuild & mods - keeping the character

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    2.4S engine rebuild & mods - keeping the character

    looks like I might be rebuilding my 2.4S motor.

    My car is an all stock, matching numbers, 1973 2.4S. Pre-rebuild it's been kicking out around 200bhp. Mainly use for touring + fast cross country blasts on the twisties

    What I would like to achieve is a bit more power, but keep the character of my S engine .. eg that fantastic feeling / kick up the backside when coming on cam at around 4500 rpm 8)

    My thoughts were to increase the compression ( we run 95 & 98 octance fuel here in the UK) but keep it single plugged.

    If new barrels & pistons are needed, then there is always the option of a displacement increase ( 2.5)

    Anyone running a high comp 2.4S motor ? Does it still have that special S feeling ?

    Of course, maybe the sensible & possibly the cheapest way would be to keep the engine stock.

    Any other suggestions / opinions ?

    Thanks

    1973 2.4S
    1993 964 C2
    987 Boxster Spyder

    'hot66'
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    Great increase in performance and still dead stock! Use 2.2 911S 10.5CR pistons!

    To get a very good increase in performance and to keep from having to modify anything all you need to do is to install stock 2.2 911S pistons. They are the same 84mm but are 2 points higher compression.

    The engine will run Great and the car will have exactly the same feel only a bit more of everything!

    2.5mm Pistons if you can find them work great also!

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    [QUOTE=execmalibu;262237]To get a very good increase in performance and to keep from having to modify anything all you need to do is to install stock 2.2 911S pistons. They are the same 84mm but are 2 points higher compression.

    The engine will run Great and the car will have exactly the same feel only a bit more of everything!QUOTE]

    We treated our '72 T's 2.4 engine to this modification when we rebuilt it 5 years and 30K miles ago, and agree whole heartedly with execmalibu's advice. It pulls hard throughout the rpm range now.

    All the best,

    Frank
    Cheers!

    Frank Kohnen
    Jupiter, FL USA
    Registry Member #921
    1972 Bahia Red 911 Coupe #9112100390..."Rudy" SOLD
    1967 Savannah Beige VW Beetle Sedan #117364457..."Heidi"...aka "Tinker Toy"

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    How far do you want to go? A 2.7 gives you 12% more power and torque without changing much of anything. Port it a bit, raise compression, do the oil pump while you're in there and you'll have a real hot rod.
    jhtaylor
    santa barbara
    74 911 coupe. 2.7 redone by Competition Engineering; ported to 36mm, shuffle-pinned, boat-tailed, Elgin mod-S cams, J&E 9.5's, PMO's.
    73 Targa (much beloved, sold and off to a fine new home in San Francisco)

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    2.2 S pistons

    If you do this modification, be very careful to note the clearance from the piston skirt to the case on the piston downstroke. The 2.2 skirt is longer than the 2.4 and in many cases will need to be clearanced slightly.
    This does make a very nice running engine however...
    Cole Scrogham
    Porsche Restoration
    911, 912, 911R, RS, RSR, IROC

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    thanks all

    I'm not wanting to machine the case, so any displacement increase would be a 'slip-in' option.

    What's the measured compression ratio you're all running with the 2.2S pistons ?

    Anyone modified the valve train, rod bolts etc in search of some extra revs too ?
    1973 2.4S
    1993 964 C2
    987 Boxster Spyder

    'hot66'
    www.ddk-online.com

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    With the 2.2 S high compression pistons 8,000+ RRPM is no problem...

    The increase in compression from 8.5 to around 10.2 also increases your reving ability! The stock 911S engine can easily handle 8,000+RPM...

    A Lighter aluminum RSR type flywheel is a great (and cheap) mod to reduce weight!

    Lightening the valve train/rods etc is very expensive and only helps a little unless you are racing...

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    I'd think

    IMHO, the best mod by far would be to make your engine a 2.7 RS one. It will be identical in appearance and you'll get great increase in performance. Many feel there was something magical about the 2.7 engine, all things work together perfectly and you have a very "happy motor."

    -Allen-

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    I prefer the 2.2 S piston and cyl route for your application, reason nothing like a zippy small bore which I consider up to 2.5. I have had RS spec 2.7's and various configurations up to 3.8. Sure they make more HP and torque but the delivery can't compare and that's where it's at for me.
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