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    1967 S Front hood badge

    Hello distinguished members, does anyone have photos of the correct front hood badge for a 1967 911S? front and back. Thanks

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    Senior Member John Z Goriup's Avatar
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    Here's what the front of an original '67 badge with patina looks like................Sorry, can't help ( at the moment ) with the underside view.

    Best of Luck!

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    I recognize that!

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    Should it be domed or flat faced?

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    Hi Bob,

    It feels kinda' flat, I guess.

    John
    1959 356 Coupe, 1600 Super, sold
    1960 356 Roaster, race car, SCCA, sold
    1960 356 Roadster, show car, sold.
    1962 356 Cab, show car, sold.
    1965 911 #301111, Red Book Vol 1 "Cover Car," owned 54 years.
    1967 911 #307347, bare-bones, some road wear, a little surface rust, and a few dents..., owned 14 years.
    1970 914/6GT, (Sold - ran the last three Rennsports)owned 30 years.


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    Senior Member John Z Goriup's Avatar
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    let's try to kill several birds with one stone, or answer multiple questions in one post:

    1. To reply to the original question, here's what the backside of a 100% original, OEM Porsche badge looks like. It is in fact the original badge off my '70 911T, shortly after I bought it from the original owner seven years ago, but which I removed and preserved in a zip-lock bag to keep it from harm while the car was being restored ( Photo 1 ).

    2. John S.: I respectfully disagree.........they may feel flat, or may actually have become flat over the years, what with taking the badges off and putting them back on, closing the hood by pushing down on the badge thinking you're keeping the lid from denting as opposed to pushing down on either side of the center, and given the general wear and tear they're subject to mounted way out front as they are, they well may feel & actually be flat nowadays after 40+ years, but I contend that new, OEM orange-bar hood badges are always slightly convex, for the simple reason that they mount to a slightly convex surface, i.e. the 911s car's front lid. As proof I submit Photos #2, #3 & #4.

    Photo #2. Another original orange-bar badge off a '70 which I personally took off a one-owner car, when a friend made me a gift of the badge - the Porsche OEM badge is shown at left. The shiny badge at right is a Stoddard's reproduction badge purchased last year at the LA Lit show for approx. $50.00.....I wanted to compare the two. Personally, I feel the repro unit doesn't look too bad, considering the garbage we've been offered recently. The only blatantly obvious difference seems to be that the dimpled background stippling on the OEM badge has flattened tops, whereas the repro unit has rounded tops on the individual "dimples".

    Photo #3. the same OEM badge, stood on edge, to more graphically illustrate the convex curvature.

    Photo #4. Holding two OEM badges in one hand, with the outside of one contacting the corresponding point on the other badge with only the central high points touching to demonstrate the amount of curvature present.

    Photo #5. Finally, an overall shot of Ruprecht, my '70 911T with the original OEM badge mounted in the original holes, on the original ( albeit repainted ) hood, which has never been hit or damaged. As you can see there is a definitely discernible amount of curvature present at that point of the hood's line as it transitions from its relatively flat main top surface to the rounded nose - the best places to estimate the degree of curvature is by viewing the fender / hood cut line, and in this case the edge of the ivory center stripe against the orange paint. You'll see it's slightly curved.

    I further propose that another reason for the slightly domed badges is that when the two nuts on the underside are properly tightened ( not madly overtightened as so frequently occurs ) it pulls the badge into perfect compliance with the curvature of the hood and forces the 360 degree raised edge into the rubber gasket between the badge and the hood for the best possible weather seal.
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    " slavish adherence to originality wasn't for me, because the car wasn't as good as it could be."
    Rob Dickinson's response when asked what motivated him to build Singers

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    thank you for the great photos front and rear of the orange bar front hood badge..

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    John...that makes sense.

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    1959 356 Coupe, 1600 Super, sold
    1960 356 Roaster, race car, SCCA, sold
    1960 356 Roadster, show car, sold.
    1962 356 Cab, show car, sold.
    1965 911 #301111, Red Book Vol 1 "Cover Car," owned 54 years.
    1967 911 #307347, bare-bones, some road wear, a little surface rust, and a few dents..., owned 14 years.
    1970 914/6GT, (Sold - ran the last three Rennsports)owned 30 years.


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    Sure seems to be flat

    What have I got here? This is on the 1965. I remembered this as being pretty flat and with a straight edge it looks not to have much curve. The other badges I've got have a distinct curve and the maroon color red bars so I'm thinking they would have been replaced in the 1980's or so.

    What'cha think?
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    I have one that's a bit weathered....no pins on the back but any decent jeweler or solder jockey can fix it....
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