Immobilisers - Required for Insurance

[Fishcop]

G'day All

So I'm in the final yards of the electrical system of my car. The complete harness was removed during my resto and the re-installation has provided me with hours and hours (and hours) of entertainment. On the plus side I removed an eighties era alarm system that never worked, repaired potential failure points, upgraded the fuse boxes from the old ceramic jobbies to ATO/blade fuses, and managed to remain true to the factory wiring system/diagram for any future custodian. I even managed to fix my very intriguing washer motor that never parked (turned out to be a later motor with 5 wires rather than the 69's 4 wire system), thanks to the wonders of $12 relays it now works and parks perfectly. And I wired in a couple of sneaky anti-theft measures. A little switch here, a little switch there...

And then I notice my insurance policy. They require an immobiliser. I gave Lumley a call to discuss and indicated I'd wired in my own effective immobilising 'system'. All went kinda silent and the eventual response was that 'for everyone's benefit' a system should meet the Australian Standard (AS/NZS 4601:1999). Given that Australian Standards are something I work with and audit against everyday at work, I actually understand and respect the call. So off to the internet for research...

I don't want whistles and bells, flashing lights, central locking, pagers, GPS tracking, bla bla bla. So I've come up with the Dynamco 205 transponder immobiliser (sometimes rebadged as a Cyclops) http://www.dynamco.com.au/products_p...php?model=P205 What I like about this is that it's passive - the transponder does not need batteries or buttons pushed, it simply senses me/transponder and allows the car to start. When I walk away after locking the car "old skool" with a key the system senses I've moved away and automatically arms... I don't need to remember anything. Should the transponder fail or I lose keys, there is a PIN that can be entered to overide (can be self-set so I won't forget it). So I ordered one. Now is a perfect time to wire it in as everything is still exposed and accessable - I won't post what circuits or where it will be installed etc, but it is relatively easy.

So putting the cart before the horse as I so often do, I wanted to ask about what others are doing and what brands/systems are preferred. Any horror stories? It's also perhaps a timely reminder that these cars aren't getting any cheaper and insurance really is a bit of a must; so is complying with their requirements lest they look for 'get-out' clauses when you need to claim...

Cheers

[obrut]

I've used a few Brants (similar prox sensor) in the past with no dramas.

[HughH]

I have a VDO one in the car, and have had for so long that it is probably "old School" these days but have never had an issue with it. It does require a separate plastic / coded key rather than proximity sensor like modern cars but I don't have a problem with that

[Fishcop]

Thanks Gents.

I think what I like about these sorts of systems is the relatively simple and single purpose of them. Less to go wrong.

[npvpositive]

John, worth noting that "immobiliser" is actually a defined term in the LSV insurance policy. (pg 36 of current PDS)

means an electronic engine immobiliser that is self-activating, self-arming or passive arming. It must be back wired and if remote operated, the remote must be code hopping . .. .[continues] . . have a minimum of two points of of immobilisation. . .. [continues]

If Lumley wanted to difficult during a claim they could probably prove that many of our immobilisers don't fit their policy requirements!

[Fishcop]

If Lumley wanted to difficult during a claim they could probably prove that many of our immobilisers don't fit their policy requirements!

Indeed! I was glad to have the discussion with them... Hence my purchase of the P205 immobiliser which entirely meets these requirements and delivered today for $180

I'll try and wire it in over the weekend.

[sithot]

I had an ignition ground wire cut-out on my '74 which was wired to a factory toggle switch next to the sunroof. Flipped off, the car wouldn't start. Car came out of the D.C. area and owner never had an issue.

However, extreme circumstances call for dire warnings such as this:

[9er]

Good one John, I like the look of that system.
I fitted a Rhino branded system to mine to meet insurance requirements, but recently have been asked to remove an old alarm system (that is playing up) from a friends 930 I will definitely recommend he buys the P205 and I will fit it.

[reedminor]

I have one of the Brant immobilisers on my L. Its worked well and continues to do so (touch wood).

[Fishcop]

Justin, are Brandt still around? I did a search and i thought they might have gone out of business?

Chris, I'll let you know if I experience any hassles on the install.