The Ultimate T/R Thread...

I think a Recaro sport seat is correct for the car driven by Vic Elford in the 1968 Monte Carlo rally. The price of 520- DM might help narrow down the type.

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This picture might help as well.

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I have the recaro price lists from those years (1966 ff) - i.e. the prices that recaro e.g. has demanded from car dealers, including discounts. From April 1967, Recaro then advertised that the prices could be lowered again due to more efficient production. porsche certainly received better discounts than any reseller. in this respect i can say that 1968 520DM is completely unrealistic for a sports seat. with half the amount you would certainly be better.

the picture of the elford car shows a scheel 300 bucket seat in my opinion (same model as in the 911R but without rivets on the cord). this seat model was also available from porsche for T/R for "racing drivers". If anyone is looking for something like this, please contact me...

@ 911 TR68: your picture shows a scheel 330. also a great seat, but with smaller side bolsters. do you still have the car (914 GT)? regards uwe

@recarno,

The Scheel 300 for a T/R is the model with hand stitching, no headrest provision like this one ?
https://www.pbase.com/9146gt/scheel_...ats_300_assink

or this model but with corduroy and with or without headrest provision. It seems to have bolsters more padded
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What were the possibilities for the passenger seat : Sport, Recaro bucket 4 legs, Scheel 300 ?

Yes, I still have the 914-6 converted to GT specifications.

hi wilfrid, i have just answered your pm in detail. to your question here: you can see the best original picture of a scheel 300 in the T/R in an upper answer. I am attaching it here again. the seat from you pictured now is also a scheel 300 but a later model from the early 70's. Since the bucket in your picture is in a 914, you should see a picture from below to see if it's a 914 version.

Hope I could help a bit.

regards

uwe

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Here are two correct options in one picture.
BR
Claudius

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hi claudius, i know this picture, but i could not assign it to any T/R. do you have the vin of the car or even a kardex? and above all a date when this photo was taken. I think I can see "wrong" adjustment levers on both seats here. on the passenger seat it looks like scheel , which did not exist in this version in 1968. the rails themselves are clearly recaro. of course, all sorts of things could have changed about the cars over the years. The picture definitely doesn't seem to have been taken in the 1960s.

of course there was also the option of ordering your car without a driver's seat - see kardex below. so all options were open to the owner.

regards uwe

p.s. Unfortunately, I cannot upload the kardex (without driver seat). If anyone wants it, I'd be happy to email it to you

Hi Uwe,
I don't think it's a time period picture too.
The seatrail base of 4 foot Recaro bucket on the passenger side is correct, driver side isn't visible enough.
Here a picture of a like NOS 4 foot Recaro with the seat rail base which is identical to the picture above. I tried to get the same angel of view.
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Claudius

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hi claudius, i already wrote above that the rails of the 4-leg are the correct recaro rails. As I said, it's about the shape of the lever. I've circled it for you on your photo. but it is difficult to see/assess because it is covered by the seat.

the lever from the driver's seat has a "wrong" angle - I think you can see that very well. I'm also not quite sure whether the scheel bucket hasn't already been revised / is original. but this cannot be judged on this single photo. do you have more photos of this car?

but it doesn't matter now, since you say that it's a photo from modern times. so it cannot be said with certainty that the ensemble is original. and that's what this thread was about: original seat equipment from 911 T/R 1968.

regards

uwe

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Hi Uwe,
I will take a picture with the seat in my car when hibernation is over. I will check my database about that specific car above.
There won't be just one correct seat configuration for the 911t/R, different cars, different drivers, different preferences - different seats. They took what was available, maybe even from the old days, especially since the seats were expensive in the option lists.
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Claudius

hello claudius, i already wrote that above (option to order without driver's seat). Likewise, a different seat has often been installed in racing cars when there is a change of owner/driver. larousse was e.g. a fan of the 911R bucket. a picture of your seat is not required. As I said, it was about the lever - if anyone needs lever pictures, I'm happy to post them.

regards uwe