I am in the market for a fully restored 911S but i this really worth 160k in today's market ?
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I am in the market for a fully restored 911S but i this really worth 160k in today's market ?
Its light Metallic blue. Gemini would have much more silver in the paint. Chris
Absolutely without a doubt.Quote:
Originally Posted by nyc123
Look at it this way. The silver 911s mentioned in this thread is $100k. I am sure its as nice if not nicer than Paul describes in his ad. If you were to restore that silver 911...assume you did it to the same level as this blue car...AND there were no hidden gremlins (which you know there must be)...easily $75k. Rust, panel work....missing this and that...add lots more money.
I was born in the dark but not last night.
$160 large seems like the tip-top of the market for a car like this. There are several small things that are not 100% correct but these can be fixed for a little more $ if the buyer is so inclined. @ $160K, I'd want correct by "our" standards.
While you can certainly spend this kind of $$$ restoring a car, I think we all know that the sum of the spend has little to do with the final value.
Still, Steve and his team did a really nice job on the resto! Nice to see it completed.
Kent
so what does CPR charge to do a cosmetic resto? does that investment directly 1:1 influence the cars value? Or is it like everything else, spend 1, get less in appreciation to your cars value, etc.
Although I would say the car is more like Blue Metallic than Gemini blue, the shade doesn't exactly look right for original #334 Blue Metallic either. I hope they didn't completely paint this car and restore to top notch and get the color shade off! Gorgeous car BTW!
2 glaring errors here. Find them.
http://caporsche.net/images/carsfors...pe/images.html
http://caporsche.net/images/portfoli...pe/images.html
As for paint match:
$160,000 requires perfection and if the color isn't right it isn't right.
In their defense colors are harder to match these days without a lot of research and trial and error (which gets very expensive). A 5 year old formula may not be of any use with the newer paints. If you are going to hold yourself out as a professional you had better be willing to spend money to get the formula EXACTLY (as it was when new).
For those of you working on a restoration be advised that buying a test panel isn't going to get you anywhere fast as you won't get accurate readings from any of the spectral analysis devices (Dupont Chromavison to PPG Prophet).
The original paint or a formula mixed with new product is what you have to have and most of these guys guard them like a state secret. There are well known shops who will sell these to you but I can offer this bit of advice. Save your money.
On 2 counts I've had friends buy test panels for their 356's that didn't get them anywhere other than frustrated. Both worked it out. One got real paint samples and matched via multiple mixes and test panel shots. It cost a lot. The other was lucky enough to get some original paint from a gentleman who had previously shot the color on his own car years ago. Nailed it 1st time.
Amateurs can miss and get a pass although the public may still be critical of the short comings.
When you start charging you are a professional and are not allowed to use excuses.
I have seen Metallic Blue labeled as #324 and also as #334. Are they both the same?
This site says it's #324 for 1973
http://www.356-911.com/modelinfo/911...olours7173.htm
I have seen many Becker Europa's over the years that were originaliy fitted to 911, the majority of them had the silver ring on the knobs, very few have all black, in fact if you do a search you will discover this. I can't believe that Becker made radios that were exclusive to MB and Porsche, but I could be wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by NorthernThrux