Ultimate ST thread

Strange it has a 71 weltmeister sticker on rear window (yet it says 70 car) and no rear flares.

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Originally Posted by letsrollbabe

Clyde:

I agree with Raj, both hard and soft lines were used by the factory. There aren't many photos from the day of the front trunk area. Here is one from the restored 72 Strahle track car, and one from the restored Kremer ST. I talked with Edmond Harris and others in the restoration trail on the Kremer ST and they all confirmed that the hard lines were used originally. Strahle's lines are shown soft in the photo, and my guess is that the lines were soft originally, or the restorer would have reused the hard lines had they had been present.

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Thanks Gib

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Originally Posted by Jensolino

There is an original ST for sale in Germany #9110301014

with 25 pictures

http://www.janluehn.com/stock/93/stock.html

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interesting an S/T with radio Ariel? putting a radio in would be the opposite of l/weight

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Originally Posted by advtracing

interesting an S/T with radio Ariel? putting a radio in would be the opposite of l/weight

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When running with the sunroof open the owner probably enjoyed listening to the race broadcast. ;)

and it lost 100cc somewhere

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Originally Posted by Jensolino

There is an original ST for sale in Germany #9110301014

with 25 pictures

http://www.janluehn.com/stock/93/stock.html

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I think that car is known (funnily enough) as the Sunroof ST and has been discussed here before. I'm not at my home computer but I suspect that car was shown at Essen previously with front & rear flares?

Clyde for reference the Orange Thackwell ST was a narrow bodied car when it landed in Australia and was then flared similarly to the McKeown and Foley touring cars.

Raj , on a side note i was reading sloniger's "the new Porsche guide cira 1971 edition and noted a paragraph on page 31 "while the works cars reach into entirely new fields porsche customers have not been neglected . the ultimate road products are there 911r and 911T with full factory option list to turn it into a replica of the 180hp monte carlo winner..." a ref to the 911T being used for ST builds maybe ? not the S

very interesting , let me have a read through later . off for a early911nz catch up

This car is for sure not an original ST there are few things totally wrong!
I think the made an ST out of a regular car, but this is no factory ST! With that strut in front trunk, this came up first with the 2.5 in 1972!

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Originally Posted by Jensolino

There is an original ST for sale in Germany #9110301014

with 25 pictures

http://www.janluehn.com/stock/93/stock.html

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I don't know about the 'T' designation in frank's listing . He normally takes his DE information from an ADAC (?...some DE race records journal) published book (yearly published ?) . But I would guess this is the same car.


(homepage.mac.com/frank_de_jong)

Nürburgring 36 hours


Nürburgring Nordschleife, BRD

Date: 10/9/1971 to: 12/9/1971


DNF Equipe Liqui Moly Porsche 911 T Günter Bühl (D) - Klaus Rang (D) - Peter Müller (D) B6 GT +1300

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I did not see this before , and again I do not know what's up with the 'T' entry for 1971 . But at this same event one year earlier: 11/9/1970 to 13/9/1970 . The same crew (with one exception : Hans Schuller vs. Peter Müller ) won their class (grp. 4 + 1300) in this same Nürburgring 36 hours event . It unfortunately does not list if this was the overall win. This year Frank has them listed '911S'.

And I do not know where this photo is , but very strangely when I was just looking through my photos for something else entirely. I had saved this recently . This is obviously the same sunroof car.

If the 914/6 in the background is George Loos . Then this is the 1970 36hrs. As he was there in a 914/6 with Franz Pesch & A. Rottlander (DNF)