Vintage stopwatches and rally stuff

With interest in classic vintage chronographs, is anyone collecting rally gear? Stopwatches, timers, hub-mount odometers, Curta calculators?
Here's a few I've found over the years, would love to see others that might be collecting dust.

The Meylan and Omega dash clocks are typical of the period and identical to Hanhart or Heuer products, even made by the same companies.
The plastic dash mount with the Omega is 1967-72. More common (and probably for good reason: stronger) are chrome steel "fingers" that screw into the dash,
or a plate mounting 2 or 3 watches. Repops have become available lately. Hanhart makes a very attractive set suitable for the vintage tour crowd.
The Minerva timing board has one clock that's the wrong size & model. I'm looking for another like the center watch.
The Hanhart control timer is the split time type.

Wow, great pieces! You have a very nice collection. I have a Type I Curta calculator with a 42,XXX serial number that is in MINT condition. I had it for sale in this thread.

http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...ighlight=curta

Thanks, t6dpilot... this small accumulation is limited mostly by my budget.
That very nice peppermill of yours, for instance: it would be hard to convince my bride how important it is for me to have it. :o

Here's an amazing, very fairly priced piece I missed completely (sold on eBay for under $700):

I've been following this pair on EBay - $1975 with 4 days to go. :eek:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=190267579500

Time waits

Jim:

This is an unusual pairing of Heuers: two Monte Carlos with jumping hour discs, both with tachymeter faces, but one is a "three button" and the other is "two button".

Both are lovely looking watches but the three button is early style up to '67 while the two button is '68 and later version.

Note that the faces show small differences in font size and layout of numerals.

The Rally Master is the gold standard for on the dash time pieces. A Rally Master is comprised of two watches, one Monte Carlo paired with a Master Time.

Here is a '68 and later Rally Master.

Note that this pair also features a '68 and later two button Monte Carlo with a tachymeter face and the later Master Time with numerals one through twelve on the face.

Tom, that's interesting. If you hadn't pointed it out I wouldn't have noticed the font and numeral difference. That pair brought $2550, not bad I guess considering a non working Sebring brought almost $900 recently.

That pair that Russ posted is a beautiful setup from a purely aesthetic point of view, and more what I had in mind. :D

I recently purchased this set. Do you think that the combination of the Monte Carlo timer with a Super Autavia instead of a Master time clock is more valuable or less valuable? and do you think it is an original pair?

I'm curious to hear your opinion!

It says "Gubelin", a Swiss retailer for the Heuer brand. I'll post better pictures once I receive them. Thanks!

Could get out of hand:

Jeff Stein whose website www.onthedash.com is the authority on these, especially Heuer watches and clocks. Refer to this previous thread if you want to find him or learn more...http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...ad.php?t=18356

Thanks to Curt E for pointing me to Auto World catalogs... this is from 1972. Cool stuff

A basic offering ... over the years I tried to find bits that were nice but less expensive than what you frequently see ... I think I did alright.

Lovely design. I NEED one of these. NEED.

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Lovely design. I NEED one of these. NEED.

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I've gotta believe the watches are less lumpy under the covers than the steering wheels, no?

I came across this stopwatch for sale -- it is a Heuer from the late 60's/early 70's and it has a VERY interesting engraving on the side:

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Anybody care to venture an opinion on the collectability of this? Is it possible this was used by the Brumos race team?

Jim... engraving or majik marker? Mighty interesting if it has any confirming provenence.

But then it would be much more likely to have been marked Brumos, wouldn't it?

Maybe not, Russ. I can imagine a scenario where this might be exactly what they needed to write on the watch and also would explain why it is in magic marker. I don't know enough about the history at the time, but it's possible that Brumos had several cars that travelled together doing practice days and races together. Maybe there were several stopwatches that were returned to a common case or cabinet, but they wanted to ensure the same one was used from session to session so that differences in accuracy between the various watches would be eliminated. Hence each watch was labelled with the cars' numbers, but not with the team name because that was unnecessary to identify the watch properly.

Of course, this is all just conjecture. I would love it if someone would actually be able to identify the marking . . .:)

So, with further research on the internet, I have come to believe this watch has nothing to do with racecars. I discovered another stopwatch that had Garrard 43 on the side of it! Both watches were recovered from estates in the United Kingdom and Garrard and Company (Brumos' sponsor) was located there. The watches were both TMU (Time Measurement Unit) which further argues against their use in automobile time trials. I assume that the watches were used in the engineering of products manufactured by Garrard and Company.

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A basic offering ... over the years I tried to find bits that were nice but less expensive than what you frequently see ... I think I did alright.

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Nice bits Mark! Just think of how many of those that one could fit under say....a bed. 8>)

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Hi Mark, did you see this? You missed it... Great price! ;)

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a close-up pix...

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Here is a 'newer' version, but may be asking too much at $4,300 OBO, IMHO...

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Mark, can you send me the link to "Auto World Catalogs"? Evidently I'm too stupid to own a computer, can't find it... : (

Here is another post as a contribution to this thread. My Heuer OEM NOS quad-plate (repros were made)
populated with a Heuer factory matched-set of Abercrombie & Fitch timers, plus the Super Autavia.
All pieces are in remarkable condition.

I know for a fact this particular Heuer timer configuration doesn't show up anywhere in photos and are very, very rare.

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Possibly the Holy Grail of Heuer Rally Timers on a quad NOT FOR SALE!

The rest of the photos here

Wow, speechless at that quad set. A genuine thing of beauty! I have a major weak spot for collecting Heuers, but being a University undergrad of 21 I cant quite afford anything like that yet! What I do have are these, which my Dad had made in the 60's (this set has been potentially sold but I have others)

http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/t...4.jpg~original

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And a few that Ive bought myself:

A nice Monte Carlo (currently being serviced)

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2900/...8da2155a_o.jpgP1010561 by victorkristiansen, on Flickr

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2921/...fca5d104_o.jpgP1010560 by victorkristiansen, on Flickr

And an equally nice Mastertime

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2895/...15e6698f_o.jpgP1010509 by victorkristiansen, on Flickr

I'm not sure if the SuperAutavia was factory fitted to that quad-plate.

I say this as I have a triple plate set and I have found that the SuperAutavia is actually slightly wider in diameter than the other timers, and when mounted, the bezels of each cannot be operated as they touch each other. See the quad set pics and note the gaps between the bezels of the Mastertime/Monte/Auto-Rally, and compare these with the (touching) Super-Autavia and the Master-Time. Same for twin mounts, too.

I can't image Heuer mounting these with bezels touching; happy to be wrong of course.......it's only a matter of a mm or two, and I'd imagine Heuer would have a specific mount plate to house the wider bezel of the S-A should it be mounted with another timer.

I had a custom mount made up that I designed which slots into the original radio knob holes of the dashboard; I just unbolt the original Blaupunkt and screw in the bracket to house the timers. A neat, changeable solution. Cheers

SK

From what I have read the SuperAutavia wasn't that popular for rallying as it didn't have the easiest to read.

I didn't know quads existed.

That's what I have read.

The SuperAutavia sure looks great though. Best looking.

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I'm not sure if the SuperAutavia was factory fitted to that quad-plate.

I say this as I have a triple plate set and I have found that the SuperAutavia is actually slightly wider in diameter than the other timers, and when mounted, the bezels of each cannot be operated as they touch each other. See the quad set pics and note the gaps between the bezels of the Mastertime/Monte/Auto-Rally, and compare these with the (touching) Super-Autavia and the Master-Time. Same for twin mounts, too.

I can't image Heuer mounting these with bezels touching; happy to be wrong of course.......it's only a matter of a mm or two, and I'd imagine Heuer would have a specific mount plate to house the wider bezel of the S-A should it be mounted with another timer.

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Clarification of my post.

"I" populated the Heuer quad plate with the Super Autavia and the Abercrombie triple matched set which was in the Heuer triple-plate I still have. The reason I posted the photos of the quad is to show at a minimum, a factory Heuer matched set of Abercrombie timers along side the Super Auctavia. I could also remove the Super Autavia and use yet one more 3-button Monte Carlo rally timer which would be more 'practical' to have in a quad mount configuration.

I have yet to see a factory Heuer Quad mounting plate with four Heuer factory matched timers, all originals within the same set. Most Heuer OEM quad-plates you see posted anywhere on the internet are in most cases, all "end-user selected" rally timers. I suppose back in the day anyone could easily custom-order any Heuer timer combination mounted on the available Heuer double, triple and quad mounting plates.

Below is a photo of my factory Heuer triple set (now mounted on the quad)...

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...and the quad plate by itself.

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No, the Heuer triple plate is not for sale either, it belongs to the Abercrombie triple-set... ;)


Below is a YouTube video of a 'similar' Heuer triple-set (as only two of the three rally timers are Abercrombie & Fitch). Currently for-sale on eBay (with no affiliation)

<IFRAME height=720 src="//www.youtube.com/embed/SODUGVYJ8lk?rel=0" frameBorder=0 width=1280 allowfullscreen></IFRAME>

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I realize the photos are a bit hard to see.

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Yes, Heuer made the quad plates, but not as practical as the triples.

Someone duplicated the quad plate, not sure who, but they do pop-up every once in a while. Personally, I only collect the real deal, not reproductions.

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I'm not sure if the SuperAutavia was factory fitted to that quad-plate.

I say this as I have a triple plate set and I have found that the SuperAutavia is actually slightly wider in diameter than the other timers, and when mounted, the bezels of each cannot be operated as they touch each other. See the quad set pics and note the gaps between the bezels of the Mastertime/Monte/Auto-Rally, and compare these with the (touching) Super-Autavia and the Master-Time. Same for twin mounts, too.

I can't image Heuer mounting these with bezels touching; happy to be wrong of course.......it's only a matter of a mm or two, and I'd imagine Heuer would have a specific mount plate to house the wider bezel of the S-A should it be mounted with another timer.

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Funny you mentioned the bezel spacing issue. Check your triple plate, should be perfectly straight. Facing-up, lay it flat on a piece of glass, hold down either the left or the right edge, the opposite end should NOT move up or lift away from the resting surface. If it does, your plate is not straight and will further aggravate what you described.

BTW, my quad plate was not perfectly straight; it had to straighten it a bit...

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I had a custom mount made up that I designed which slots into the original radio knob holes of the dashboard; I just unbolt the original Blaupunkt and screw in the bracket to house the timers. A neat, changeable solution. Cheers

SK

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Clever installation. I will also have to design something practical that could be easily removed (by me). One can't be too careful leaving 15K worth of Heuer timers on the dash of an unattended vehicle.

A longer quad plate is, well, really long and does not easily fit in most car dash areas. The Triple-Plate, those are a perfect size and the reason why they are in such demand when wanting to use three timers. I also have other things to consider, using a HALDA Twinmaster and I have yet to figure it all out for location and brackets. The installation will have to look very period original and MUST also be clean and practical for their intended use.

"OnTheDash.com" regarding S.A.V.I.C. Read starting "Afterwards – June 15, 2011".

"Quote from OnTheDash"...
The exclusive importer of Heuer watches in France over these decades was S.A.V.I.C. (which stands for something like “Societe Anonyme Vente Industrielle de Compteurs”, meaning that SAVIC focused on industrial stopwatches [perhaps comparable to Fisher Scientific, in the United States]). SAVIC was a strong importer for Heuer in the early years, but was less successful in selling the self-winding watches that became popular in the 1950s. Mr. Heuer remarked that Breitling was more successful than Heuer, in terms of selling watches and chronographs in France. The fact that Heuer sold relatively few watches and chronographs into the French market back in the 1960s explains why we see so few of the Fab. Suisse markings today.

A photo of my Heuer S.A.V.I.C. factory matched set on its double mounting plate.
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Just added this Split-Second pocket timer to the collection...

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...and now looking for the Heuer carrying case. Do you know anyone that may have one of these available for sale?

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I can be reached via email AJSERRANO at MSN dot COM - Thx!~

One more set, a Heuer Master Time Factory Matched Set in remarkable condition and perfect working order, just arrived from Germany.

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The Seller went out of his way to fabricate the small wooden box, a nice touch...

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The timers were further protected in bubble-wrap for extra insurance.

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I'm done buying Heuer's for a while... :cool:

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A ,maybe, interesting ad:
http://www.leboncoin.fr/equipement_a...10.htm?ca=18_s

Just thought Id drag this back to the top with a few that I currently have, moved on a bit since my last post in this thread where I only had a quartz mastertime and one Monte!

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8753/...05c1d542_o.jpgIMG_20150203_163122948 by victorkristiansen, on Flickr

Split second timer:

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8733/...33bc3558_o.jpgP1010405 by victorkristiansen, on Flickr

Two 3 button Montes, note the stuck hour disk on the LH one, Ill strip this one down for a service soon (I also do all the work to my watches)

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7637/...8fc2e3dc_o.jpgP1010406 by victorkristiansen, on Flickr

Super Autavia on a triple plate:

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8689/...3a8c0f97_o.jpgP1010407 by victorkristiansen, on Flickr

Twin set of later RH pusher Autavias, perfectly matched:

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8687/...2b5dfaee_o.jpgP1010408 by victorkristiansen, on Flickr

And potentially the crown jewel, a NOS rallymaster set, boxed with paperwork, in a very rare matt black finish.

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7630/...79d07307_o.jpgP1010409 by victorkristiansen, on Flickr

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8701/...dae3da09_o.jpgP1010410 by victorkristiansen, on Flickr

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8698/...35dda0eb_o.jpgP1010411 by victorkristiansen, on Flickr

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7594/...798f35de_o.jpgP1010412 by victorkristiansen, on Flickr

Some of my Rally / track (original no.52) stuff on display here. Lets not forget (Halda) what you really see in 70's/ 80's cars. Real metal Twinnmasters are not for the beginner collector.



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The later version of that original HEUER Timing Board...

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One of my favorite...

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One other timing board...

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Eye Candy... Unrestored HALDA Twin...

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...and with the lights 'on'

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Here is that 'taxi cab dash' look...

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Another unrestored HALDA Twinmaster, but with a pair of rare Heuer S.A.V.I.C.S.

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These found their way to an Alpine Renault rally car...

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...with some cool and functional quick-release D-Rings.

Love the release ring idea on your timers, I might have to adapt something like that - any lessons learned?

Here are mine - two triple sets, the pic is prior to clean, recalibration of the time pace, and mounting:

For my '68, a Super Autavia, a two button Monte Carlo, and an Auto Rallye; for my '67, a 4 number Master Timer, a Sebring, and a Monte Carlo.

I have mine over the radio opening, in place of a radio delete plate.

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I sold the HALDA and SAVICs' and didn't do the install myself. There were no issues with the installation, other than having to fabricate a 'reproduction aluminum dash' so the original dash of the Alpine could be preserved (there is a mounting hole for every D-Ring installed).

The idea with the removable mounting brackets originated so not to tempt those with ill intentions. :rolleyes:

minerva duo with one heuer on board . .

Finally found a fine condition metal Halda Speedpilot and Twinmaster to mate with my '60s Heuer Rally Master Pair. Will mount in my '72 T/ST sometime this year and photograph.

Anyone have any leads on a resource to repair old Heuer dash-mounted timers and clocks. I've tried several vintage watch guys and none want to deal with them. I even tried the Tag-Heuer repair center but they declined saying they had no parts. :( :confused: :mad:

Thanks,
Bill

PS... I should clarify that many will clean and adjust these pieces, but none will repair if parts are broken.

Send me a pm Bill... I think I can help you
...and, here's another

Such a gorgeous piece

watches are just sooo nice

I've had this '60's Swiss Minerva 10 sec. sweep track watch since the early '70's....
Timing my friend's 1970's SCCA career and two regional championships with it......

I cracked the crystal sliding over the Riverside Raceway's hot pit wall......... :o

The deal is, I still keep it in my gear bag for'a backup.......... ;)

- It's in my pocket on the leather lace at Riverside in '73 for my buddy's first SCCA 'school' weekend..... :)
He and that car won the C-Sedan regional championship by the end of the year.... ;)

... and so it goes

Only a little bit awesome....
http://chronocentric.com/forums/chro...=read;id=47777

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Such a gorgeous piece

http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...1&d=1455293382

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This one's for you Mark...

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Tag Heuer will reissue an Autavia...
http://autaviacup.com/matches/69
I vote for the Rindt

Definitely cool. Lets hope it doesn't cost a gazillion dollars:
http://autaviacup.com/matches/69

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This one's for you Mark...

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That is a spectacular pair of Chronoswiss I am without words
I have a 73 steve Mcqueen x2 nice and crisp to trade for that pair?

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That is a spectacular pair of Chronoswiss I am without words
I have a 73 steve Mcqueen x2 nice and crisp to trade for that pair?

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knock yourself out on ebay dude:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chronoswiss-...MAAOSwr7ZW5oD1

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chronoswiss-...8AAOSwEeFU-04Q

I was joking. The Mcqueen is an honest 27K But your pair is a spectacular pair of timers. They are true Gems!

Love them

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I was joking. The Mcqueen is an honest 27K But your pair is a spectacular pair of timers. They are true Gems!

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Let's see that McQueen

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Here you go Mark. Hardly worn never polished box and papers Crisp like new :)
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Here you go Mark. Hardly worn never polished box and papers Crisp like new :)
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Thanks...that is lovely.
It's a level I can't approach. But I'm happy with my new '70s Heuer Carrera

Here's another photo.

Mark, that is awesome

We love this stuff

One you won't see too often

Nice Mark!

A cool thrift store find. At first glance, I thought I had stumbled upon a rally timer set! All mechanical Swiss movements of course.

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Very cool Curt. Are you a chess player?

I found this early first series Twinmaster on Ebay with an under market value price. It came in the original box with paperwork. Its in amazing condition.

I have lusted after a vintage Heuer timer for some time and recently acquired this Monte Carlo.
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completed the set...

Here's a question for anyone that has these timers on mounting plates:

I want to mount the Master Time set to my dash -- try as I might, I do not see one photo of these with screws that "match" the finish on the plate! Most photos just show the holes in the corners -- no screws. Is there (or was there ever) a set of flat head screws with the same chrome finish as the mounting plate?? If anyone knows of a set for sale, please advise.

My new Master Time set:
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-m1ycb5FRW...e713bfd7_o.jpg

Jim, I have seen the black aviation timers for sale with black slot screw head bolts, washers and nuts.
There are these but I am un sure if they came with the timers originally, I suspect NOT as the individual placement of the timer would require a variety of screw length etc

https://www.ebay.ie/itm/Heuer-backpl..._7JEMumIrIc5rA

Perfect! Thanks Mark.

Anyone who has seen one of these before?

https://i.imgur.com/9Kvgmzu.jpg

That looks like it belongs in a cockpit. I picked this one up a few years ago. I had it cleaned and oiled. Works perfectly and is going in our 912 Polo hotrod.

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That looks like it belongs in a cockpit. I picked this one up a few years ago. I had it cleaned and oiled. Works perfectly and is going in our 912 Polo hotrod.

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+1 nice find

My 1970 Heuer Roadmaster. Dash set up. Something different. Rare in this form. Perfect Teaser. I may sell it soon to fund a build.

That's a neat timer, Steve... later ones had square plastic bodies available in several colors. Marketed as budget friendly they must have not sold many... yours is the first early one I've seen in a long time.

Thanks to Vic (miniman), a 1960-62 Autavia that was missing a partner for too long now has one:

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Since starting this thread my collection has grown a bit, as well. Looking for a triple mounting plate if anyone knows of one available.

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Wonderful collection Russ, great to see the Monte Carlo pair in a worthy home after being sat for so long - looks amazing with the Autavia! Here's a few of mine, most of them past but a couple I plan to keep:

https://drive.google.com/uc?export=d...CH0eabPH8Va0nU

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https://drive.google.com/uc?export=d...Q4U4VR07hXv0fg

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Russ, David Scothorn in the UK makes very nice reproduction mounting plates... he made my triple-plate for me.
Email him and tell him I sent you.

A mate of mine gave me this the other day.

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It is missing its loop on the winder but works perfectly.

1/100min. I am not versed on stopwatches so could someone perhaps inform me of its usage.... athletics perhaps??

Nice old stopwatch Mark.... I think it is an athletic track watch... I have an old Minerva like that...

Thanks CM,
I thought as much.
As my running days are well over I guess this wont be getting used much :D

10/100th's watches were typically used in industrial time and motion studies, not sports. Minerva made piles of them as did Hanhart and Heuer (same movement, different case and logo).
They're called micrographs and serve many specific functions, from measuring assembly line efficiency to (digitally) power system switching speeds.

Years ago I got excited buying half a dozen NOS Minervas of that type for cheap money, like $20 bucks each. Not a huge expense but I quickly learned that converting any track timing with those clocks was impossible.
Imagine: a minute is 60 seconds... now try to convert a minute or an hour into metric. Yeah. Chess, sailing, rally and sports timers are based on standard 1/60 analog time. Period.

Also: thank you Mark!!

Thanks for the clarification Russ.
To tell my mates I used to be able to run a 4 minute 28 second Mile in 428 'something or others' would just raise eyebrows.

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Shameful really.
Sebastian Coe ran a 3.48 the same year.

I bought these years ago from the owner of the original family and just came across them unpacking a box.

Any thoughts on them?


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Very nice. And nowadays quite valuable.

Lovely early set there Rower, made 1963-1967. Tritium dials in nice condition, looks like they need a service based on the hour window being stuck on the Monte! Great thing to find in a random box.

Not only a nice early set, but the most useful Heuer pairing... a Mastertime and a Monty are the classic rally clocks.

Wonderful surprise! Have any other boxes like that?

The seller’s father bought and used them in rallies
Thank you for telling me the vintage.

As for the disk, why on the Monte Carlo is there on lume on half of one of the hands? Aging or by design? Is this common and/or affect value?

I forgot what I paid for them, but what’s the range of value today?

I need to put them to use at some point! I had bought them for a 67S big tank rally car I owned some time ago but never mounted them , so that explains the year I guess (maybe a later model would be more appropriate?). I definitely liked the look when I saw them.

If they don’t get mounted in a car, is there a nice way to display them? A wood desk mount available?

Finally (I keep editing and adding to this post!) where do I get the 4 mounting screws for the plate? Size? It’s a stainless flat head screw?

The hands on your set are original - all Monte Carlos have only the top half of the hour hand painted with lume - as for why, I'm not quite sure!

The value ranges from between (prices in GBP apologies!) £1500 for a rough condition set in non-working/unserviced condition to £2500 for excellent/NOS boxed examples. I'd put this set in the £1900 - £2100 range if the case chrome is in nice condition. The 3 button Monte/3-6-9-12 MasterTime combination is the most desirable.

I would go to a local carpenter and get a nice "toblerone" triangular section of rosewood or teak cut to mount them on. I stock the correct stainless screws to mount these to the dashboard in flat head and domed head, I'd be happy to send a set for postage cost.

Vic

One of my earliest acquisitions - $5. Spent many years screwed to the instrument panel of an open boat, hence the pitting from salt water exposure. Still works perfectly.

Shameful self-promotion. :o. for 000 Magazine earlier this year.

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WHAT ? You self promoting Mark,,, Never :D