VIN: 9111300220
engine: 6310360
trans: 7111045 911/01
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VIN: 9111300220
engine: 6310360
trans: 7111045 911/01
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Rare-...item3cd0df0933
Seller's eBay schtick . . .
. . . This is an auction for Peter Gregg's personal 1971 911S. I've owned the car for 23 years . . .
Peter was the legendary driver who established Porsche's dominance in North American sports car racing in the 70's. Among his many accomplishments, Peter won the IMSA GTO series in 1971 and 1973, and was a 4 time winner of the 24 hour Daytona, along with Porsche icon Hurley Haywood . . .
This vehicle includes the following important documentation:
Notarized letter dated January 15, 1996 from the late Bob Snodgrass (former 30 year president of Brumos Motorcars) attesting to Peter Gregg's ownership of the vehicle. Many cars were represented as Peter's car because he drove loaners from his dealership, but this was his personal registered car.
Original Owners Manual registered to Peter Gregg
Maintenance Record
Rare 1971 911S model
Matching numbers 2.2 liter engine
Matching numbers smoother shifting 901 "pull-type" transmission.
Original factory air conditioning.
Factory Recaro Sport seats.
Although currently black the car came in an unusual OE gold color and has paint code plate to confirm
Non-sunroof car
Have original Mechanical Fuel Injection (MFI) included in auction.
Condition
You've heard of the original barn find, well this a yard find. I've owned the car for 23 years and it's been undercover in backyard for the last 10 years.
It is in need of a full restoration. Pan rust is present along with rear torsion bar sheet metal, passenger side footwell pan, rockers, and typical surface rust.
Air conditioner compressor not included. Aftermarket fiberglass rear whale-tail and front spoiler, OE parts not available. Although car includes the rare Recaro Sport seats, interior carpeting, headliner, gauges, dash will all need to be redone . . .
This unique car represents a one of a kind opportunity given Peter Gregg's importance in Porsche history. Please feel free to call me at 410-960-0442 if any questions, I'm here to provide any information you need about this unique car . . .
(Not mine)
Way too bad. This is what happens when you have a car covered, especially in a humid climate, over time. Sad, sad, sad! Look at those sports seats. Years ago, I had a 356 covered in my parents yard in West Virginia for a matter of only a couple months. OMG ! thank goodness it was time to move it. During that brief time mold had already started to form and the clutch disk was stuck to the pressure plate..was able to break it loose but not easily since the car was at the bottom of a steep driveway...live and learn. Let's see what happens to this sad case? Thanks.
-Allen-
Regardless of who the previous owner(s) were, what a shame.
Were the Gregg estate to get 10% royalties for every car he sat in or "owned" might give the Elvis estate a run for the money.
Tom
Well said Tom.
Yikes! Poor car.
It will be pretty nice after someone dumps their bank account into the restoration.
A gold 2.2S would sure be sweet.
I'll be watching this one with a bag of popcorn.
Too bad he didn't realize he had a valuable car ten years ago :(
Exactly ....
The handwritten 'options' on the invoice are interesting. Hard to read but looks like:
P.D.I. $150.00
Headlamps - xxxxxx $90.00
Suspension, spacers, track, long studs $120.00
Special engine xxxxx xx xxxxx xxxx $40.00
7" rims $260.00
Painted headlamp rings $39.00
Attachment 248628
Also, I guess I forgot this little factoid but Sport Seats were standard equipment for an S in 1971, correct?
Interesting that the listed dealer is not Brumos , wonder why.
Could have been a dealer trade. Pretty common occurrence.
Correct, sport seats were standard on the '71S. Cool document to have with this car. The handwritten additonal options are especially interesting. Any idea what 'P.D.I.' is?Quote:
Originally Posted by CurtEgerer
Pre Delivery InspectionQuote:
Originally Posted by fryardds
$150 for a P.D.I.? in 1971 dollars that borders on buggery as it would be approximately $865 in todays dollars. Another reference is that a Rolex Stainless Date-Just or Milgauss Rolex were about $250)
Bidding is now at $40,100 ! Of course I always think rusty cars like this are WAY overpriced. Unless, of course it's me who is selling :confused: (actually I never sold a rust bucket like this) And this one has been molested and is incomplete ta'boot! Thanks,
-Allen-
It will be gorgeous when complete...Quote:
Originally Posted by kentf14
"When complete" restoration cost estimates please? Time and money? Mine: Two years; $50,000+Quote:
Originally Posted by 72targa
Here is one of my favorites. I wonder if it ever got restored. Im' not sure but I think it sold for around $20k. It was about three years ago, did the market make it look like a great buy? Thanks.
-Allen-
The all time restoration (remanufacture/recreation) award ,most certainly would go to the RHD 71? S that was not much more than a roof, vin plate and A columns. These Ebay cars look like a day at the beach in comparison. It was kind of like, "Sir Hillary, why did you climb K2?" (Google answer)
I went back and looked at the auction one more time. Being on the Chesapeake Bay is not the greatest place on earth to store anything. If you did a history of major storms to hit the region I'll wager this "thing" has been in some "real water" over the past 23 years.
Gloria is a bit early but the rest are pretty much a guarantee.
1985 Hurricane Gloria
1996 Hurricane Fran
1999 Hurricane Floyd
2003 Hurricane Isabel
2004 Hurricanes Frances (Sept. 8), Ivan (Sept 17) Jeanne (Sept. 28) *******
2011 Hurricane Irene
2012 Hurricane Sandy
"Heavy Weather" warning to any sailor venturing into this one.
Tom
Informative while entertaining post from Tom. Thanks
Allen
.Quote:
Originally Posted by sithot
A Nissan pays the dealer 1.3 hours to perform the PDI on a 2013 370Z @ $106.50 an hour totaling $138.45
Seems fair. Wouldn't you agree that modern cars are pretty buttoned down when they leave the factory?Quote:
Originally Posted by gsjohnson
Tom
Might also be pre-delivery installation for those parts that are all in the same handwritten bracket.
You're probably correct. Typically the PDI is not listed on the Window Sticker or the Dealer Invoice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Per Schroeder
A little background.. I was a Porsche Dealer in NJ from 1973 to 2000...and knew Peter. Each year I would take a car and drive it in the summer..when it sold you could always say it was my car/ demo... no dealer I ever knew registered or titled a car/ demo in his name... always drove on dealer plates, no reason to pay registration or sales tax... Peter Gregg drove many new Porsche's as part of being a Porsche Dealer, nothing special...If the car was modified by Brumos to increase it's selling price and Peter drove it , a little different, but again not that special...just a smart marketing tool... Nice to say you own a car that Peter used , but in opinion just a nice story to dine out on.
Thanks for the insight.Quote:
Originally Posted by autofair
And so it goes.
Tom
Sold for $60,100. These early S's sure have made a move in recent months.
??????????Quote:
Originally Posted by rmfent
Too high or to low?Quote:
Originally Posted by Allen Henderson
Certainly a basket case of a car, but I was expecting more. Don't get me wrong, it was worth a hell of a lot less than the final bid, I was just expecting something SUPER crazy.
Sorry, actually I was thinking of a different car and post when I posted that. So now I change it to !!!!! OK, if S prices continue to climb, the owner might break-even should he decide to sell in 2016 or so when it's done ;) Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by kentf14
-Allen-
i missed this by sheer stupidity , thought my max bid was 65 but had only put 60 in :mad:
I'll quote a line from one of the smartest guys in the hobby I have the privilege to call a friend.
"It's a $10,000 parts car".
I have been a Peter Gregg and Brumos fan for many years. Lots and Lots of Peter Gregg cars out there... He drove what he wanted at any given time. Those cars were not registered in his name. Very interesting Provenance to this specific car. Yes... Lots of Rust... Yes.. Motor will need rebuild...Yes.. It will need a full restoration....Deservedly so..... I really like the unusual gold color and the non sunroof.... wish it had the sporto trans as Peter was a big fan.... None the less... I will restore the car back to it's original condition. I have a few friends at Brumos and will try to get them involved...... More to come. Tate
I would love to see the title documented showing Peter as the registered owner..I was a Porsche Dealer for 26 years and met Peter and Bob at meetings, they were both smart business men.. Dealers had no reason to register cars in their own names as they have the ability to drive on trade/dealer plates..plus it takes the car from being sold on a manufactures certificate and thus making the second owner the buyer of a used car... F. AlloccaQuote:
Originally Posted by LongRanger
Simon Gregg Sent me this pic of the 71 S Gold Metallic coupe. Peter Gregg and young Simon standing in front it
His personal car. T
Attachment 527625
I would view this thread with skepticism..I was a Porsche dealer in 1973 and have knowledge of Peter's operation...There is a recent well researched piece in Triple 0 publication on the cars that peter enhanced, in '72 and '74. Some were his demonstrators and a couple were built upon request by favorite customers. Peter built one, 0922 ( recently sold at Amelia ) that he drove for almost 6000 miles and then sold it to Dr Morgan a gifted reconstruction surgeon, trading back the 916 Peter had sold him. The car was fitted with documented factory flairs and and an RS aluminum framed rear deck, along with suspension and engine upgrades. It was the first to carry the Brumos racing strip, which subsequently Bob Snodgrass claimed credit for designing, which is not factual. The invoice showing a different dealer might be correct as this may have been a dealer swap, the hand written additions are suspect, as normally the Monroney Label was fitted by the Imported and dealers would affix a supplementary label for additional added items...Autofair
Thanks for your input Autofair. Nothing Skeptical at all about this wonderful car. Fully Documented by Brumos. Letters from Snodgrass as well. This was not a customer car.....this was his personal car.
Yes. Long Studs and 7R wheels were added per his request. Also painted Headlight rings. Lots and lots of Original Documentation. Car was sold to his good friend and Racer Roger Overby who drove the
car for years. Then sold to a gentleman in the northeast who owned it or 23 years until my ownership. Car is currently under restoration. Just wanted to share the cool photo of the car with Peter and Simon.
Thanks, T
Picture of Gregg's 71S with front AC condenser reminds me of another 71S that came from Brumos with same. Very early condenser placement I believe. Car I owned was Blood Orange and now belongs to a member, I think.
Interesting to see the painted headlight rims
. . . now, here . . .
https://www.early911sregistry.org/fo...=1#post1138398
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