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Hello
I am looking at a 911 2.2s presumably built in 1970
I have the following vin plate and also a number stamped behind the dashboard.
I wish to know if these numbers ( which are different ) are as they should be , i.e. is the chassis matching the vin plate
Vin # 9111300663
Dashboard stamp # 103 2631
Also any other information welcome.
Thank you
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I am having a hard time reading the aluminium plate - you should also look at the vin stamp in the trunk
'IF, as you say, the VIN stamp reads 911 130 0663 that would be a 1971 model year 911S NOT a 1970 so definitely NOT made in 1969
However the production number (which will never match the vin in a LWB car and only Porsche can tell you if it is an exact match) CANNOT POSSIBLY MATCH THIS VIN for be for a 1971 (or 1970) car
It is a production number (thus a shell / tub) for a 1973 911 Coupe
It can be decoded as
1 911
0 Porsche built coupe
3 1973 Model year
2631 series number for all coupes (T,E,S and RS) built in that model year
I am terribly sorry , my mistake built in 1970Quote:
Originally Posted by HughH
even so it is a 1973 MY shell so absolutely not a match (i cant open those attachments in your last post)
Hello Hugh,Quote:
Originally Posted by HughH
Whilst near the car I checked another one also the same numbers.
Are you sure the same criteria for these numbers which are as you say for SWB , the same in LWB ? Attachment 480751Attachment 480752
will come again ;-)Quote:
Originally Posted by HughH
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and this , sorry .Quote:
Originally Posted by HughH
They are from another car Attachment 480754
I still cant open those attachments
SWB cars did not have a separtae production number stamped - the "dash number" was the same as the vin
When Porsche moved to a "new and improved" ordering and tracking system for their cars they also incorporated a production number that was separate to the VIN and tracked the order through the production process
The "upgrade" occurred over several years and the 1969 model year (the first year of LWB cars) was the first to have the production number process
it was refined over a couple of years (and at that time Kardexes were phased out and replaced by a primitive computer based system
the production # can be decoded as follows:
format XYZabcd
X=0 replacement body
X=1 production body
Y=0 coupe
Y=1 targa
Y=2 Karmann coupe
Y=3 Karmann 914/6 targa
Z= last digit of model year beginning 1969
Z=9 1969
Z=0 1970
Z=1 1971 and so forth
abcd is the sequence #
EDIT I can see them now
that set are production number 113 1083 or a 1973 model year 911 Targa and the 1083rd one ordered to be built
the vin 9113510292 is for a 1973 911 T Targa and the 292nd of those made that model year (but with carbs not MFI or CIS - the 5 in the sequence for a T-Vergaser)
therefore they may be a match but only Porsche can tell you
Thank you so much Hugh , much obliged.
Could it be that the first car the 70 build , had the dashboard panel changed ?
who knows you have to go through the whole shell to see if it is 71 shell or a 73 one or a mixture - not a job for the faint hearted or someone that does not know the exact metalwork differences in shells from one year to the next All I would say is a Big red flag and move one to something else
My 1971 911S built in
Thank you so much Hugh, the chase goes on ;-)
Sorry no one does this. If something's changed it's the front clip / VIN but as stated ... move onQuote:
Originally Posted by Bowzer
I already have Uai, thank you ;-) .......I'm dreading the time Frank Beck wakes up and sees the thread................expecting another clobbering from him :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by uai
Adorable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bowzer
I'm a teacher at heart; not a bully. (whatever that is.) When willful rebellion and stubbornness is exposed that's when the ruler comes out.
Looks like you've already learned today's lesson
:-) ;-) still looking , but I think I have been proposed SWB S of 67 , let's see what this one brings , she is in the U S of AQuote:
Originally Posted by Frank Beck
Sweet. '67S would be very cool.
Chuck, seems you're my catalytic converter; my vocabulary is so much "richer" without your restrictions... obviously too rich for the current environment.
Lol
Thanks SimonQuote:
Originally Posted by Simonjjb
bowzer-- You have to check out this 67 911S that European collectables has in Costa Mesa CA Bahama Yellow original paint garaged kept.Original owner passed away--wife sold it to his friend who died and EC bought it. Has every service record since new and each one is in plastic sleeve. Look at their site for pictures--this car will not last long. Its the type of car Seinfeld would buy. Chris
https://www.europeancollectibles.com...che-911s-coupeQuote:
Originally Posted by raspy2point2
Previous mention . . .
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...hlight=308013s
(Not mine)
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Thanks Long Ranger for posting the 67S. Looks almost as good as the famous 700 mile 70S in silver not quite but close. Chris
Thanks Raspy :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by raspy2point2