Fuchs set of Four 4.5" X 15" Wheels

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I purchased these about 7 years ago removed from a 67S. One wheel has the stamped part number markings and the fox. Two of the wheels have only a faint fox and one wheel has no markings at all. These three must have come with the ink stamp that is no longer on the wheels after being refinished. They are currently finished with polished petals and lips. When I bought them I was going to send them to Harvey but they are to nice. I am ready to part with them, asking $5000 plus shipping and Paypal fees. Will include the 4 polished caps, would prefer to stay in the lower 48. I will remove the tires before shipping.


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Hi

Are these still available? I'm based in the UK, which I assume would not be an issue in terms of shipment.

regards
Mark

Why would you assume that? The UK is not in North America let alone the lower 48 states.

Never no though.

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Originally Posted by 911s55

Why would you assume that? The UK is not in North America let alone the lower 48 states.

Never no though.

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Why would you presume to answer for the seller?

I'm not, I am asking.

Here is the sellers quote. "would prefer to stay in the lower 48. I will remove the tires before shipping".

You are right prefer is the key word.
Mark PM sent
Thanks
Craig

Maybe I misread , didn't mean to sound pissy. I "prefer" to sell anything I have in Australia (because it's just easier), having said that - I "will" sell overseas assuming the buyer is covering those additional costs. I just felt that preference is a call for the seller...

back to the core point of the ad, this appears to be a nice set of 4.5s at a reasonable price. i can easily imagine that guys in europe would be interested.

good luck on the sale of some nice rims!!

Wheels are sold pending payment.
Thanks for the interest.
Craig

Wheels are back up for sale. Now I remember why I prefer to ship to the lower 48. I will not ship to Europe and and under insure and fudge value for customs forms.
Thanks
Craig

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Originally Posted by 67SWT

Wheels are back up for sale. Now I remember why I prefer to ship to the lower 48. I will not ship to Europe and and under insure and fudge value for customs forms.
Thanks
Craig

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Somebody asked you to do that? I'm shocked.:roll eyes:

Hard to insure for full value unless the full value is stated.

Talk about a thread that would be packed full of dynamite. Someone needs to bring this one to the surface:

Many Europeans have no problem buying our cars but few it seems, are willing to pay the full tariff to get them home.

And some of us have paid full tariff 3 years ago and are still waiting for delivery of restored items............
It works both ways. Good workmanship takes time. Some of us pay up the full amount and are prepared to wait.
Not fair to tarnish 'many' of us with the same brush.

Regards
Mike

Maybe in this specific case some value fudfing would help. When customs open the case with the 5000 dollar bill and only find some old wheels, you might get them delivered home with ripped tires...

Erik

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Originally Posted by Frank Beck

Talk about a thread that would be packed full of dynamite. Someone needs to bring this one to the surface:

Many Europeans have no problem buying our cars but few it seems, are willing to pay the full tariff to get them home.

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Simply because it's an absurd theft... they calculate customs also on packaging and transport, plus VAT (without deducting american VAT)

I'll weigh in on this one... I'm not European, but I am a b@stard convict from the Antipoeds who enjoys trying to do the right thing in our small car community.

Tariff and duty are two separate things but for this purpose lets call it the same. In any case it's paid based on the 'value' of an item; in most cases we're dealing with new items with a RRP so that's easy. Now for the purpose of valuing a second-hand/vintage item, just because I pay $5,000 for an item doesn't mean it's worth $5,000.

Say I buy a set of S IDA webers at a garage sale for $500. I flip them for $5,000 but really the market value was probably $3,000 - I just got lucky with an American who really needed those webers. I pack them up in bubble wrap and mail them off to the States and insure them for whatever the new owner does or doesn't want them insured for (I don't care, they're not mine anymore and I have $5000 in the bank - the risk is his). What are they worth to me? I'll say $500... In the vintage car world, do any of us actually care that a government misses out on a few hundred bucks based on OUR micro-market assessment of what some 45-50 year old greasy car parts are worth?

If your moral compass gives you no room to waiver, fair enough - tell the government the carburettors you paid $500 for are worth $5000 (plus the $300 postage handling, and insurance) and make it someone else's issue.

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Originally Posted by Fishcop

Say I buy a set of S IDA webers at a garage sale for $500. I flip them for $5,000 but really the market value was probably $3,000 - I just got lucky with an American who really needed those webers. I pack them up in bubble wrap and mail them off to the States and insure them for whatever the new owner does or doesn't want them insured for (I don't care, they're not mine anymore and I have $5k in the bank - the risk is his). What are they worth to me? I'll say $500... In the vintage car world, do any of us actually care that a government misses out on a few hundred bucks based on OUR micro-market assessment of what some 45-50 year old greasy car parts are worth?

If your moral compass gives you no room to waiver, fair enough - tell the government the carburettors you paid $500 for are worth $5000 (plus the $300 postage handling, and insurance) and make it someone else's issue.

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John you make it even more confusing $500, $3K and $5. In the end the government only cares about the price paid, not the value (or what they are worth to the buyer / seller). There are lot of goods w/ a low intrinsic value but w/ a high price.

Tom brings up a good point

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Hard to insure for full value unless the full value is stated.

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. If you as a seller run into issues (lost in mail for instance) how are you going to cope w/ that, especially when it's paid by PP.

Richard

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John you make it even more confusing $500, $3K and $5. In the end the government only cares about the price paid, not the value (or what they are worth to the buyer / seller). There are lot of goods w/ a low intrinsic value but w/ a high price.

Tom brings up a good point . If you as a seller run into issues (lost in mail for instance) how are you going to cope w/ that, especially when it's paid by PP.

Richard

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Fair enough. I've standardised the nomenclature :)

My point is the parts are worth what a very small micro-community of car people 'say' they are worth. Every country is different, but mine for example makes no money out of me mailing something out of the country... it doesn't care what I write. Now just cloud the water - what if we do a trade? I send you my $500 webers we agree are worth $5000, and you send me a pair of ITP webers worth $2000. Should you pay your country duty on $5000 or $3000?

Sorry, I guess I find the whole notion of paying duty on vintage items that have already had duty paid on them when they were sold new 45 years ago a bit absurd.

The insurance is another matter - I don not have a responsibility other than to provide insurance to the value of what the seller wants. The risk lies with the buyer if he asks me to declare a $500 value on an item he's paid $5000 for. I've provided the tracking details and the insurance certificate.

My sincere apologies to the original poster - I don't have a dog in this race. It's just a really interesting subject, and it keeps the items for sale up the top :D

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Sorry, I guess I find the whole notion of paying duty on vintage items that have already had duty paid on them when they were sold new 45 years ago a bit absurd.

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That I agree w/

Personally I would be scared to use PP and insure it not for the same amount if I don't know the buyer or sort of.

Richard

are the wheels still available? I am in AZ.

Jules,
Please read the original ad.

It says "lower 48".

This does not include AZ as our state is now part of Mexico. CA now counts as two states; the state of Normal and the state of Confusion.


As for duty and tariff, I have more buyers ask for a faux receipt than the other way around. Just my experience.

sold



Yes wheels are still available. Thanks Jules, I guess I hijacked my own thread.

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Originally Posted by Frank Beck

Jules,
Please read the original ad.

It says "lower 48".

This does not include AZ as our state is now part of Mexico. CA now counts as two states; the state of Normal and the state of Confusion.


As for duty and tariff, I have more buyers ask for a faux receipt than the other way around. Just my experience.

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LOL!!! Another good one, Frank.