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All, I am looking for some detail pictures of the black color scheme behind the engine grill on an early engine lid used through mid '68 (with the center bar).
The lid on my car (believed to be original, car was built late August / early September 1967, so MY68, PY67) is currently all light ivory and I would like to make it right. Any close ups available? Where does the black stop and the ivory start?
Thank you,
I have an Aug 67 build the complete lid is body colour.
hmmm. that is what mine is. I read somewhere (Johnson's book??) that there is a black area behind the grill. Maybe on later cars only?? This is what mine looks like today...
Current thread on the 912bbs.
http://www.912bbs.org/vb/showthread....the-back-grill
what i have seen is that late my 67 cars did have body colour---never seen black on an my 68..
Thank you Moito and for the link John. Looks like it's correct after all? No black on late 67 thru 68. Learned something new again!
If you search "black paint under grill" in the Technical Section you will find many who believe the under grill should be painted black for 67 MY.
Also, there was a white 67 911 early production car restored by Pete Sorensen and the under grill was black. You can see photos of this car if you search Pete's name in the "For Sale" section.
jules, I have written down in my '67 notes that before 307950 you will see black under engine lid grill and after 307950 you will see body color. Source: Info was posted somewhere here a while back and I jotted it down for my own information.
Nick
so It is clear as mud.... :)
i guess it was meQuote:
Originally Posted by nickb4
I have a 1966 deck lid (not original to my car) that is in Irish green and does not have any black on it at all... I removed some paint to see the number stamping and believe the paint to be factory original...
Hah, yes it was you. Well, now you know at least one person is listening to you (and even writing down what you say) ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by moito
VIN = 307950SQuote:
Originally Posted by nickb4
Eng# = ?
Trans# = ?
Another thread . . .
'. . . Les Klimt and his wife, Pat, aren’t sure if it was spring or fall when they journeyed to Stuttgart, Germany, with another couple in 1967, but this they do know: The red 1967 Porsche 911S that they bought from a German dealer has been with them until last week . . .
. . . Klimt, of Independence, was a TWA pilot at the time. He tried to buy a 911S from Art Bunker’s Kansas City dealership but he was told they were in short supply and he couldn’t get one. Not to be deterred, Klimt visited the Hahn dealership when he was in Stuttgart and got one immediately. Klimt couldn’t speak German, and the salesman couldn’t speak English, but they salesman’s assistant translated and they worked out a deal. Pat said she wrote a personal check on their bank in Independence, and they drove away . . .
. . . Since the Klimts were with another couple, and the Porsche only had room for two, the other couple bought a new Volkswagen and they toured Europe together. Klimt remembers strapping the car to a flatbed train car for a ride through the 12-mile Simplon tunnel between Switzerland and Italy. Pat sat knitting in the car by the dome light while Klimt worried that the battery might go dead . . .
. . . When the Klimts finished touring, TWA shipped the car back from Milan, Italy, to hn F. Kennedy International Airport for six cents a pound. Klimt flew his sons, Bob and Eric, age 11 and 5 respectively, to New York and the three of them drove the car back to Independence with the youngest boy riding in the tiny back seat . . .
. . . Klimt, 78, was in the Air Force from 1950 to 1954. He used the GI Bill to become an aircraft engine mechanic and that led to him being a flight engineer for the Lockheed Constellation. He went to pilot training and became a TWA captain who flew a Boeing 727. One of his last assignments before retiring in 1982 was flying from Brussels to Berlin . . .
. . . The Porsche, with a little over 30,000 miles, has been sitting since 1990. Klimt was always very particular about maintaining his car, but it is time for it to have a new owner . . .
“If I were 20 years younger,” he said, “I would never consider selling it, but I’m running out of time.” . . .'
- See more at: http://tomstrongman.com/one-owner-19....Klm7vw0d.dpuf
. The Porsche, with a little over 30,000 miles, has been sitting since 1990. Klimt was always very particular about maintaining his car, but it is time for it to have a new owner . . .
Of course it only has 30,000 miles. It never left home without being strapped to it's flatbed truck!
Another question about lids, where do you find the stamped number ?!
Posted this pic up once before.Quote:
Originally Posted by wjishi
This lid was stamped up on the top right of the center bar.
(no black present on this lid)
Attachment 325271
I just bought this lid that has black but not sure how original or whatnot!
This (admittedly) 68 car is generally acclaimed to be pretty original in detail (see last pic) http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...ongues-wagging
As is this one: http://cprclassic.com/images/carspre...pe/900W/37.JPG
And this: http://www.exoticclassics.com/1968-p...?make=PORSCHE&
Two seemingly with black under the grille and one without ...
The deck lid on the "tongues wagging-car" is a bit confusing. According to what the new owner wrote in the Esses-article, this 68S was originally delivered with a 3-bar grill.Quote:
Originally Posted by Merv
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I was thinking along the same lines. I took a couple iPhone photos of the paint demarcation of 300824 (champagne yellow) at Carrparc USA's LitMeet open house where it's being restored.
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Here is another lid I just pulled out of storage, original paint no black.Quote:
Originally Posted by wjishi