This R Gruppe 1969 911T is feeling faster everyday. :)
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Have fun,
gburner aka "ted" on Pelican.
Here's a photo that needs a caption. ;)
Whats the largest tire I can fit on an unflared 69 911? :)
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This R Gruppe 1969 911T is feeling faster everyday. :)
Click here for new upgrade details and photos.
Have fun,
gburner aka "ted" on Pelican.
Here's a photo that needs a caption. ;)
Whats the largest tire I can fit on an unflared 69 911? :)
Very impressive!
I liked the car in all of its incarnations- going to be wicked fast now! Nice to see someone constantly upgrading thier machinery.
Dave
The Kremers were flaring 911's in the early 70's. Porsche heard about it, and sent their bigwigs over to see.
They liked it so much, they started flaring their own cars -- and we now get RSR clones like yours as a result. :)
I'm all for it. But then, you're preaching to the choir with me.
Gracias Dave and Jack. This post appears to be rather misplaced with all the stock buffs on this board. A view like this might be disconcerting to an all original owner :( . To those I say please come watch us at the track where you’ll likely enjoy the spirit of long hood 911s racing. :D Perhaps the true essence of narrow body 911 racing can still be found at VARA and some HSR events. Very close racing, exciting and unquestionably more period correct. :)
...woooo... :eek:
That will be a wiiiiiiiiiide sucker... ;)
Go for it!!
Will you be up in Monterey this year??
Will the car be ready?
Can't wait to see it!! :rolleyes: :)
Cheers!
For perspective, it's about as big a jump from a typical RS clone's 8x9 wheels to my widebody's 9.5x11 setup as it is again from my widebody to Mike's new 10.5x13 monster widebody.
Is there such a thing as an RSR-R? ;)
Damn the torpedos man....just do it and be happy. There's more than enuff pure stockers out there to satisfy everyone's needs. I'm sure the hidden Gruppe monster in all of us are rooting for you.
:D
Interesting perspective Jack, the playing field remains less than level. :o
Will this jeopardize my underdog status?;)
RSR-R :) I called it RSR+ but that best describes Jacks car, maybe it will be RSR+1 or maybe the Tim Allen version RS arg arg arg. :)
T- man hope we can share a couple of pulls in it, maybe wait and see.
The first race I'd like it to be dialed in for would be the Alfa Club 2 hour Enduro at Buttonwillow, May 28 & 29.
The final drive chart, should be fun rowing between 50 and 135.
Update with photos of the super wide body flares.
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Dude, brilliant stratagy! Make the car so wide that nobody can pass! ;)
Looks cool!
Staying with the Brumos theme?
Looks good Mike, there's something to be said for intimidation! :eek:
Here's an historic precedent; Lime Rock last fall-
Actually at 73 inches wide it's still 4 inches narrower than the Baby 935. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Cornpanzer
It will be a more Frankenstein Brumos with the primered fenders during testing and the first couple events. The fiberglass front and rear hoods will have the stripes. I may have some plain white wrapper white steel replacements for (wide ;) ) canyon carving.
Nice picture thanks for posting it. I have a similar photo I can't scan of a long hood Martini car with a similar nose but for a long hood. I'd like to try something like that instead of the RSR front bumper and chin splitter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jens
The 70s 911 race cars (and mine too) were not known to be incredibly aerodynamic. My other race buddies like the alternative of cladding they’re early cars with the more aerodynamic 993 nose. I prefer the character of the long hood design.
Thanks for your comments.
Mike
Yeah, Mike. I know you're going with the longhood and RSR oil cooler bumper. I was referencing the flares. :D
I expect you're going with vented and ducted fenders too.
Yeah but I like the rear fenders and the nose on your picture. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Jens
Yes actually considered that look, sans the short hood.
The fiberglass kits for that look are made for rims even wider that mine, 15 inch rear? 13 inch front maybe? As we went with steel our basic goal for now is something that looks like a fender ;) and covers the tires and does not rub. When I get it back I'll make some black paper cut outs to see how the new flares might lend themselves to the rear fender intake. The fender intakes would be nice for fresh air for the brakes and the trans cooler. I wonder how these ducts help or hurt drag?
Ducting for the rear brakes would be good. Do your track regs. allow add'l holes in the body? NACA ducts are both low drag and good for air intake - can install on body or rear quarter windows.
Looking good Mike,
Sherwood
I really like the idea of a longhood version Mike. I say stick with that theme.
Here's another pic that I'm really fond of (not my photo). Martini. It really is a w-i-d-e track.
Here are some flares on a '73 RSR!
That car and driver are working!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jens
The super light hood is caved in, the front tire is 3 inches off the ground, windshield covered with bug guts (spring time race :) ), the drivers rear tire barely on the rim and you know what the driver is thinking? "Need More Torque!!"
Great photos, keep them coming. Today the S board if full of cool race shots.
Fenders and wings.
Thanks for the great vintage photos.
I did find a nose shaped like some of these vintage cars.
Anyways please do check on the Mirage RSR+ street/track 911 updates.
We just completed the final chassis fabrication.
Click here for the latest.
I don't think this is a wasted effort on we so-called puritans at all! Loooove that wide a.s.. as the song goes "fat bottomed girls, they make the rockin' world go round"! :D :D :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Gburner
Can't wait to see this fat bottomed gal finished!
Cheers,
Just a quicky update.
It now has air jacks and the 3.6 conversion is complete.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/showt...63#post2068163
Holy crap GB....you better shave yo head cause that rig's gonna set your hair on fire! :p
G&W (sold) car that has been to the Rennsport Reunion at least once.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jens
Tom
Thanks, Hope so!Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Schooley
When its ready Paul jump in the passenger seat at the track and we'll do just that. :D
Nice work Ted. Here's a few widebody pics. The first is a bit of a mystery .... are they running narrow rain tires??? In the 2nd pic, the rear tires look unusually small in diameter?? The 3rd pic? Just plain ole big fat tires!
Can someone explain that front bumper/spliter to me? All the ones I see have a flat on top like the street bumper. Even the RUF BTR is that way, from what I recollect. Yet, the M & R car has the 964 look at the top. Who makes a bumper like that today? I've looked around at GT and MA Shaw, even AIR and I haven't seen it quite like that. Yes, I know there are no signal lights. Minor problem to fix for street. And, yes, I know that is not a long hood. My next car will quite possibly not be a long hood.
Jens,
"Fenders and Wings". That looks like Montreal. Might that have been a support race at the first Montreal Grand Prix weekend?
A.T.
Curt cool choice of photos. I agree rain tires on the first one. Lot's of body roll too. Perhpas the rear rear sway bar was disconnected for added grip in the slick conditions.Quote:
Originally Posted by CurtEgerer
Some of those wings are bit on wide(wild :) ) side. Seems the later 935s didnt have wings that wide.
The straight wing on my project is 6 feet, just less that the fender width. :)