Not mine, any comments, i would like to be on it;)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1973-...QQcmdZViewItem
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Not mine, any comments, i would like to be on it;)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1973-...QQcmdZViewItem
That's a nice unmolested-looking car. Wonder what the reserve is?
The reserve is 35K
Probably worth it, but I'm amazed at some of the prices these things have risen to ......
This appears to be the same car discussed a few months ago that sold recently first at Amelia Island to someone in Virginia, and more recently by G&W to ? It's the second gold car in this thread. Anyone know what G&W it sold for then?
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...ighlight=G%26W
Gold metallic can be very attractive (I'm not biased due to owning one), although personally I don't think the brown complements it nearly as well as black. But this interior looks in great condition, but apparently a dash crack based on last thread.
OK Guys- the Gold T is mine and I am the one who bought it from G&W......It really is a beautiful car. After it was shipped out to me, it had problems with the engine cutting out- turns out that the gas tank was rusted out inside and couldn't be repaired, so I found a correct gas tank and had it completely redone inside & out. I also installed a new correct fuel pump, rebuilt alternator, new Hella horns, replaced some engine gaskets that were leaking, replaced the brake hoses and had the valves adjusted........
The reason I listed the car is that I just bought a 1973 S and decided that I now have too many cars (seven)...so I'm being practical. Who knows? I may end up keeping the T - I hate selling these things anyway....
I found both my early 911's with help from many people on this board, so I want to say thanks! I plan to join up and look forward to meeting some of you in the future.
-Gary Grasso
73 T cis coupe gold
73 S Targa silver / sport seats
2004 996 Cab black/black
70 Mercedes 280 SL blue/blue
61 Jaguar Mark IX
56 Pontiac Safari
2002 Mercedes S430
$35 K for a 73 T? This is absolutely nuts. Hell, you are over half-way to a brand new Cayman S with 295 HP at that price. All modern everything, no worries, away you go. I mean it's a nice T but really, NO sunroof, NO sport seats...c'mon. MAYBE that much for this car IF it was an S or E, but a T? No thanks.
Well, show me something better for less and I'll buy it- I would have bought one long ago if I could have found an unmolested, original early T like this one...so go ahead, point me to 'em if you know where they are........I don't see anyone selling these cheap.........
"Hell, you are over half-way to a brand new Cayman S with 295 HP at that price. All modern everything, "
Yeah, but then you'd have a quickly depreciating Caymen S, just like the other 20,000 of them that will be on the road, that will be off warranty and worth $30,000 3 years from now! :D Give me an early car anytime.
I don't think too many people cross shop 72 911's and Caymens, so I not sure I understand comparison. If you look around you'll see a few nice T's in the middle 30's. That kind of money would probaly get you a nice Roadrunner or GTO what would you rather drive on weekends.
Phil
Can somebody provide a link to the Cayman discussion site, "badbilly" will be happier there.
Ask and you shall receive...
http://www.babblers.org/forums/index.php?
Garygrasso its a very nice car, and i do think that these cars unmolested and even molested a little with good taste are worth the money, i own several T,s and love too see what is happening, i feel sorry for the dream of guys who want to get into an early, but thats life, but if you look hard enough and specially around here you will find. I just bought a 73.5 Bahia Red in colorado, from Mike and the car even come with a nice story behind it, its sitting at Car quip being prep up to be shipped here to spain, so i will take your T, E and any S any time over a new Porsche.
Now does anyone have an S coupe that wants to sell, and Tom count your self out;)
santiago
A former Parade winning T, yes T recently sold for more than double the price of the gold car's reserve or 1.25 Caymans, 1.5 Boxsters or .90 997.......While I have both new and old Porsches (just added a Boxster Tip for my wife) there is no substitute for an early car.
Don
Don,Do you have a photo and/or a description of that award winning "T".I am planning on taking one to Portland and I`d like to see how insane my contemplating doing this might be.It would be an education for some of us. Beautiful example,Gary! Thanks Tom
The car Don is talking about is virtually perfect.
Low 20,000 miles, sport seats, attractive special order color and better than new. As expensive as it was, I thought it was worth even more.
And, if you look at other marques, it's not without precedent for the very best car to be worth a multple of the value of a very, very fine but slightly imperfect example.
Hey guys-
Thanks for the comments- I didn't think this message board was a forum for putting down each other's cars, but more of a platform to share a common interest.......Anyway, I own both new and early Porsches and they are totally different experiences- To me, there's nothing like an early 911 in good running order, out on a back country drive. Here are some pics of my 73 T CIS coupe:
-Gary
Don't see how anyone could possibly put that car down..gorgeous.
A.B.
It's an spectacular car good luck with auction. I too get confused when board memeber are critical of pricing of cars. I would think it's in all our best interests to see these cars get exchanged at market values.
Phil
The Car Don Is Talking About Was At Hershey In The Previous Manhattan Winners Group.it Sold And Has Been Resold For$80,000,that's What The Seller Told Me
I can top one that Tom! ;) Check my classified ad for the '02 996 Cab last week. $95K sticker, 26K miles, like new, $40K. But 2 years from now, without putting any more miles on it, it's probably a $30K car :rolleyes: Point is: if so-called "investment" is a concern, even at $35 for this T, I don't see it ever being worth less than that .... they ain't makin' these things anymore!
to all on the board, and especially the owner of this very fine 73 T. I did not "run down" anyones car nor disparage it in any way. I just made a comparison to a newer Porsche, cost-wise. You guys sure are touchy. As for this price of $35 K "being reasonable", just take a look at the sepia 72 T just put up here for sale. Also a very nice car (WITH sport seats), and, at some $11 K less, it is my OPINION that this is a more reasonable price for a nice early T. I too love the early cars and have owned several (wish I had them back!). Sorry if I upset anyone.
BB
It's not me who is setting prices- it's supply and demand.......Again, I don't see anyone giving anything away - theses early 911's are HOT and getting HOTTER - I only wish that I had snapped up about thirty of 'em in the late '90's............
-Gary Grasso
Gary, nice car! Great color combo too...
Billy,
There are MANY early 911's (S,E,T,L etc) that can be had for much less than the mid $30Ks, but they will cost much more than that to get them up to the condition of the ones going for $40K+...
I just helped a friend find a "decent" early 73T with MFI...car went for less than 10K, but ... even though it was a great deal, it will never look anything like the higher dollar cars. If you are looking for a very clean, documented and no story early car, be prepared to pay for it...if you just want a driver and fix-r-upper, they are out there too.
Remember though, no matter what a 911 costs, they will ALL cost at least 20K by the time you get it to where you want it to be...
Cheers,
Thanks, Michael...
There is a Porsche out there for every person and every budget... except that the budget to buy a nice one or make a tired example into a nice one is the same for everybody! (About 3 times more than you'd think!)
-Gary
Gary,
That is a nice car, would love to put it in my garage in Huntington Beach.
Michael
I had the opportunity to look at the gold T when I purchased my silver 72S from G&W last year. I thought it was a real nice example but I thought it was a lot of money, considering many times you are going to have to spend some more money on a car you purchase. But less than a year later the price doesn't seem so high. I think the early cars are still on their way to a price level that befits their quality, rarity and status as an iconic sportscar of the 60's and early seventies.
Scott
so just for my curiosity, what is a real good, clean, pca member, s member, documente and all the trimmings S with flares and original engine be worth? the car is nice, all options too. will the price affect because of the flares?
Gary your car is outstanding.
Well guys-
I just ended the ebay auction early for my gold 73.5 coupe- :D
Have you ever been in this position? - You have several collector cars already, and you find another car that you really want. So you rationalize your now-inevitable purchase by telling yourself that you'll sell one of your other cars......Then you realize that it's harder to let go than you thought. So you decide to withdraw the car from sale and either build an addition to your garage or find a way to squeeze the new car in the driveway???
Well, that's my story and I'm sticking to it - at least for now. In the event that common sense or fiscal responsibilty rules once again, I'll post the car on this message board....Now I'm taking her out for a drive!:D
Congratulations Gary! I don't know about you, but I'm getting too old to be prudent. If I run out of money I'll let my two sons support me for a change.Quote:
Originally Posted by garygrasso
Cheers,
John Audette
Buying is always alot more fun than selling!
well said and done:D :D :D its about enjoying them.
Good decision. They don't get much better than that. You would surely miss it, and I doubt you will regret keeping it. By the way, thanks for the photos. They will come in handy when I start my restoration. I have your car's twin except for the fact that it has 215,000 miles and is a bit rough around the edges. Enjoy!
-Steve
Gary, exactly my sentiments. Ironically I almost called you about the car.
Joe Delleville
Thanks, guys-
The T and the S are each interesting in their own ways- It's a load of fun to drive one, then switch to a different driving style with the other:cool: ....Again, thanks to the great people on this message board who helped me to find both cars......
Gary
73.5 CIS coupe gold
73 S Targa silver/sport seats
04 996 cab black/black
I've been around the block a few times, and I feel 35K was reasonable for that car if it was as good as it looks.
Three things dictate price is these times:
1) condition
2) condition
3) condition
To compare that price with a late model car??????????????????
For what I have tied up in old 911's, I could sell them all and go into the local dealer and buy one each, NEW, of every model.
"$35 K for a 73 T? This is absolutely nuts."
Someone hasn't done their homework. The marketplace dictates what these cars are worth, and this one will prove it IMO. Very nice car.
I, along with some others I know, would value a non-sunroof car above one with a hole in it.
Gotta love that color! Good luck on your sale!
Real550a,Quote:
Originally Posted by real550A
I don't know if I am so convinced about that negative bias being the on the sunroof option. First of all, Porsche was the ONLY company in the 60's offering a sportscar with an electric sunroof as an option. It was expensive and rare.
Furthermore, I have had numerous coupes and Targas, and decided aftyer having both that while I love the lines and stiffness of the coupes, I also like targas for open air driving. With a sunroof coupe you can enjoy the sun and breeze on nice days, and look up at the moon and stars at night when the weather is balmy. The only way to have your cake and eat it too is a sunroof coupe.
Mine works like a clock and doesn't leak either....
Mr. 550, there's nothing nuts about T's in the thirties. Its allready a fact.
Robert..