Pricing Help, Polak 911 Sporto

Hey gang,

I need help from the pricing gurus or even the internet experts on what my ex Vasek-ANN-Polak 1968 911 "L" Sportomatic is worth. This car is pretty known because of the foundation selling the car after Mr. Polak's passing. The car is still mostly original with a fresh engine. I know Don Ahearn had it for a while and it was published all over the Bird and the "S" Registry one time or another.

I was interested in trading for a Riva boat, which was posted on the registry Saturday. The fellow can't get over the fact that it's a Sportomatic (and there's nothing wrong with that). I still think the whole Vasek Polak thing dances all over the fact that it's a Sporto?

What do you guys think it should be worth? Not that anybody wants to buy a Sporto... that includes you Frank.

Thanks all!

Kevin

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It seems as if the "L" is bringing about 70% of "S" prices. I don't know that a Sporto is a direct value hit; more like a hit on the size of the buyer pool. That it belonged to Mrs. Polak may have some cache, but that's hard to quantify. My guess on value is $80-90K today based on other Ls I've seen for sale.

If it's 60% or more original paint, you have a car someone in PCA will want to show.

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It seems as if the "L" is bringing about 70% of "S" prices. I don't know that a Sporto is a direct value hit; more like a hit on the size of the buyer pool. That it belonged to Mrs. Polak may have some cache, but that's hard to quantify. My guess on value is $80-90K today based on other Ls I've seen for sale.

If it's 60% or more original paint, you have a car someone in PCA will want to show.

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I agree Bill. When a car is more enjoyable to trailer rather than drive to the shows it might be a good fit for PCA crowd.

Thanks for hittin in,

Is there a % of how much OG paint is on the car to show it in the P class. I'm thinking its mostly OG paint and the interior is OG too. I never thought of the preservation class. Thanks for the PCA tip! The engine sheetmetal is og too but looks its age (like crap actually) is that something the street show dudes like to see re done? Hell, some of the dripping oil is og too!!

KJ

The car really drives "Bitchen"....is that Cali talk.

Drive it to the show.....it ain't no "Trailer Queen" although some "Queen's" might like the Sporto side of things!

. . . maybe?

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Originally Posted by gumby1953

. . . need help from the pricing gurus or even the internet experts on what my ex Vasek-ANN-Polak 1968 911 "L" Sportomatic is worth . . .

. . . What do you guys think it . . .

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Monterey's about two-and-a-half months away


Given some of the sky-rocket prices seen lately? --- and the Vasek Polak connection . . . it might just be That Time

http://www.rmauctions.com/consign/

http://goodingco.com/consign

http://www.bonhams.com/how_to_sell/


Even if you're not selling? . . . at the very least --- you might just give these guys a call . . . get some estimates, hear some opinions

HtH

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Originally Posted by gumby1953

The car really drives "Bitchen"....is that Cali talk.

Drive it to the show.....it ain't no "Trailer Queen" although some "Queen's" might like the Sporto side of things!

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I don't know anything about queens or stuff like that (I can tell you here in Arizona, if someone is in the closet they're probably just looking for another gun).

Don't clean up that OG oil! That's patina!

Great tip!!

Wasn't actually thinking of selling but when I do, your right....Monterey is the place....I'm thinking this little Polak "Special" needs to go back home when it go's for sale.

Don Franco,

Would you re paint the sheetmetal....or leave the og Patina alone?

KJ

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Don Franco,

Would you re paint the sheetmetal....or leave the og Patina alone?

KJ

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Looks good from here ... but I'm 3000mi away.

What do your well-honed instincts tell you?

Marco,
You do a wonderful impersonation of an encyclopedia salesman. Lol!

K,
Dangerous. Where do you stop? See how this auction goes and get feedback from bidders.
:)

I can compute what goes on in the racing prototype World but the streeter's have different o-pinions sometimes...that's why I'm asking the gallery. Sometimes you get o-pinions from every and any bodies on some subjects. I can take the heat but where is every-body when your asking for their O-PINIONS?

If I paint it, all I will hear is "why did you paint it"! If I leave it alone....you know the drill.......it would be a better sale if you cleaned up that old looking engine!

Thanks for feedback, friends,

KJ

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. . . I can compute what goes on in the racing prototype World but the streeter's have different o-pinions sometimes . . . If I paint it, all I will hear is "why did you paint it"! If I leave it alone....you know the drill . . .

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Hmm

Well . . . as long as you're asking for o-pinions . . .

When I approach an Old Car --- especially one like this . . . I always ask . . .

How much of the car is still Porsche's?

. . . and how much is not?


Some people have the skills + resources + drive to completely build their cars from the ground up --- literally . . . and more power to them. Lord knows --- some cars needed it

But then . . . who's cars are those now?

Put it another way . . . are they still something that Porsche built?


Speaking from the Hard Rocky Korps . . .

If it's dirty? --- clean it
If it's broken? --- fix it
If it's missing? --- find it
Restore only what's ruined
Everything else is just everything else

Pretty is nice --- just remember . . . pretty never lasts


Oh, yeah --- and can I drive it?

;)

HtH

K...I won't paint my '67. Had it at the Parade Concours last year and I can't believe how may people came up and told me to just leave it the way it is. Way more people than I would have ever guessed. So I say, keep it as is...It's Bitchin' (SoCal talk). :p

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John

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K...I won't paint my '67. Had it at the Parade Concours last year and I can't believe how may people came up and told me to just leave it the way it is. Way more people than I would have ever guessed. So I say, keep it as is...It's Bitchin' (SoCal talk). :p

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John,

Are you sure they didn't just feel sorry for you?

They were probably thinking: "This poor guy showed up to the wrong event. I better give him a hug."

Classic. Very funny indeed.

Oh no Frank...now you got me thinkin' about that! All those PCA a guys were just laughing at me. :eek:

K. "L" cars are pretty rare. All it takes is someone to do a story in a magazine about them and "Bam." Things are crazy out there.

John

Yes it looks interesting with all that surface rust on the 67 911, but by leaving the rust-- it will only get worse with more rust showing up! At some point wont you have to paint it? Chris

Hi Chris, I never get it wet and it lives in a garage, not close to the ocean, so I hope it will outlast me. :) I guess I'll paint it at some point, but no plans now.

John

John,
The silver lining is that our cars are still more valuable than most PCA member's cars. Not promoting a pissing match- just stating a fact.

a good deal squeeked by on the the 4th while everyone was drunk on Porto, a Sporto went for small change... cheap!
appeared to be a genuine L in decent shape http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1968-...item4d0dfcc4ab

Good buy; certainly room for the next guy to make a few bucks after it's tidy'd up.

Apparently all the diggers who enjoy posting cars for sale were stuck at the picnic all day.

My vote....$80K

I found this old link that I'd read years ago. His wife didn't like the car. :o

http://www.vpracing.com/Visitor-inpu...erson-911.html

Good luck. Provenance is good.

Tom

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I found this old link that I'd read years ago. His wife didn't like the car. :o

http://www.vpracing.com/Visitor-inpu...erson-911.html

Good luck. Provenance is good.

Tom

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I had to chuckle at this part:

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She tried it but did not like it (speculation is that the Sportomatic still requires shifting, just no clutch).

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