i like well used cars that were well enjoyed
but can you show me original low km/mile cars
and tell us a bit about the history of the car
thanks
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i like well used cars that were well enjoyed
but can you show me original low km/mile cars
and tell us a bit about the history of the car
thanks
Here's my first 911, shown the day I drove it home on New Years Day 2005 - please forgive the grainy film / scanned photo. It was a completely original 1970 911T purchased from its only previous owner, a UC Berkeley Professor who had driven it to every state and Country in North America, racking up 249,000 miles in the process. Hardly the type of low milage specimen suggested by ds58 but a proud, original survivor nevertheless.
Nothing exotic, nor endowed with meaningful provenance, merely a Karmann bodied Signal Orange Coupe with black interior, deep Sixes, Blaupunkt radio, but totally devoid of rust except for a thin line of corrosion at the bottom of both doors due to plugged drain holes, and it absolutely never had an accident. The only change I made the same day I brought it home was the substitution of a flag mirror for the original, cracked Durant. The muffler was even original, since the car was principally driven only on long highway trips. Car received a top-end engine rebuild at approx. 125,000 miles by Bauer Imports in Oakland, CA, who maintained the car from new. At 180,000 miles just the front-end received a single-stage re-spray due to rock chips.
Paid $12,000 for it back then and attempted to use it as my daily driver, an ill advised experiment that lasted until October '05, when I drove a friend's immaculate RS and realized just how satisfying and fulfilling driving a proper, mechanically sound 911 could be, instead of nursing the worn-out relic my car had become. Bearing in mind the unalterable truth of the adage that "they're only original once" I began a three year restoration-modification which ultimately turned that innocent, unsuspecting sumbitch into the Ruprecht of today........one of the only original components remaining on the car other than the tub is the well-patinaed orange bar hood badge.
Photos of before ( at left - as in when it was almost completely original ) and three years later, at right, after the "restoration", which was really more of a transfiguration was completed.
My 1971 911E with only 41,000 miles on the clock. Its a rare optioned car with rear wiper, fender arch trim, sport seats, date stamped '71 7" fuchs. The original Cibie's and factory RS front bumper were apparently added in 1973 when the car was exported to the US. The car went through a light rebuild by a previous owner in preparation for concours events....I don't do concours so I just drive it :)
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...11E/911E-4.jpg
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...11E/911E-7.jpg
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...E/IMG_1731.jpg
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...11E/911E-3.jpg
It will be interesting to see what everyone's definition of 'original' is as they post...
Cool photos!
John
Here is my 1971 911T Targa all original except one respray of the Bahia Red about 9 yrs. ago. Interior is all original carpet, seats, Blaupunkt Frankfurt,even the matching deep 6's Fuch's are unrestored. The spare tire is from 1971 and is a Veith/Pirelli made in Germany. Has 79,000 miles on it.Attachment 221087Attachment 221088Attachment 221089Attachment 221090Attachment 221091
All original and "used" is they way I like them.
My 1969 Porsche 911S Targa - original except for a repaint 10 years ago.
Newest one around the house, so I'm trying to spend more time in it:
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h1...2/P5205013.jpg
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1971 Mercedes 300SEL 6.3 - original except for a repaint sometime in its past.
A minor project but sure is fun to drive - co-owned with my best friend of 30 years:
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h1...L/P5064875.jpg
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1966 Mercedes 250SE Cabriolet - all original.
My pa-in-law's, but he hates driving it - so I've adopted it as mine (keep/maintain/drive):
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h1...o/IMG_1935.jpg
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My 1986 Jeep CJ7 - all original and only 45k miles.
Driven regularly - great neighborhood runabout - one of my favorites, oddly:
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h1...n/IMG_0309.jpg
1965 Chevrolet C20 longbed stepside - seriously original!
I'm currently restoring it in my spare time - I have high hopes:
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h1...0/PB203767.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h1...0/PB203765.jpg
In the family since 1962 74,000 miles , completely original and worth about as much as a crappy 73 911. There is no justice.
Aside from a couple of brake rebuilds and one respray in '97 which included fresh weatherseals and repop front turnsignals, mostly original... including the sunroof fabric. Engine and transaxle have never been split. Rubber floor mats and interior panels are the ones that it was delivered with, the seats are ratty, but I've covered them with beach towels for years. Shabby chic. Recently rolled past 250,000 miles. :cool:
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I have the original roof rack too, refinished the wood when I bought the car.
Looks cool but they're easily stolen, so I stashed it in the shop.
EDIT: It looks better in pics, but is rust-free. Since prices are now so whack I'll prolly break down and do a full resto soon.
1972 914 with 52K miles, original paint and interior.
Here's a few pics of my SWT - up on the rack as I detail and re- assemble. Next month, I'll post pics of the shiny side.
I could use some help from the board here - I need a good high res pic of a longhood car, preferably a dark color, from the front; showing normal wear and tear of 40 years on original paint, chrome, headlights, etc. Anybody got one?Attachment 221123Attachment 0
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My 1973.5 911T. Bought it back in 1987 for $6,000. It had the driver front fender replaced and a respray a few months later at the Porsche dealership bodyshop. It was a daily driver for 8 years, then just a warm weather weekend car. Right now it is in my garage, I just replaced the suspension pan and battery boxes. Suspension being taken care of also.
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My original paint 1973.5 911T. I bought it in 1988 with 40,000 mile. Still with original paint and interior. Engine has been rebuilt. Everything just keeps on working just fine.
IMO..."all original" is defined as matching numbers engine and trans, original paint, interior, wheels, panels, lenses, trim, and glass (except windshield). There should be no modications. Non-factory items should be limited to perishable items like tires, hoses, belts, wiper inserts, filters, weather stripping, bulbs, fuses, ignition parts, brake pads, clutch, etc.
My recently freshened up, numbers matching example....although "stock" in appearance shouldn't be described as "all original" IMO because of the repaint (even though it was done to the highest standard with the correct single stage Glasurit acrylic urethane in the original recipe for Bahia Red), new carpet and headliner, Wevo shifter, 380mm wheel, several bits of new or refinished exterior trim, H4 headlights, single battery setup, S/S exhaust, round Durant exterior mirror, aluminum trailing arms, S alloy brake calipers, and the addition of the NOS Hella TTG 118 driving lights.
History: The car was built in September of 1971, and originally sold/delivered in Toronto. It lived its first 30+ years in Canada, and it spent most of those years in British Columbia. Glass out re-paint #1 was done in the mid-80's. It was exported to the US in 2003, and passed through 2 owner's hands (one in Kentucky and one in Pennsylvania) before I acquired it and brought it to Florida in the Spring of 2005. The odometer read 42K when I bought the car, my guess is it was actually 142K. In addtion to the recent re-paint #2, the engine, trans, and suspension have all been rebuilt while I've owned the car. I've logged 35K miles of driving time over the past 7 years, and enjoyed every mile!
I agree with that, Frank... but so few have OG paint that I think of completely, totally original cars as survivors. Service consumables are a given. So my old bus doesn't qualify as totally original (edited post) though it's pretty close. My 700 Cabrio with 27,000 miles does qualify. Keeping it that way is another matter. Saving it's original finish was a primary goal, but after many hours of sympathetic cleaning even it may get fresh paint. Matching old odd-colored lacquer isn't easy, and blotchy 80% OG paint on a car with such a small following has limited appeal.
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Our 58 Super. 40,000 original miles, last on the road in 1974. All numbers match, original paint, interior, top and tires. The cooolest thing is all the options listed on the C of A are still on the car including seatbelts, coco mats, Michelin X tires, etc. The downfall is the floors need to be replaced after living in the Midwest it's entire life. Our plan is to make it structurally sound, mechanically restore it and drive it as it is. I do not have pics of the washed but she cleaned up nicely.
Here is our '66 Euro 912 which was delivered in Germany 2/18/66. It is all original with the exception of a 2009 respray using single stage Spies Hecker urethane and installation of new interior carpet. It is a well documented, nicely optioned (including a Porsche chrome ski rack and still intact parts kit), all numbers matching car purchased from the original owner and friend in March of 2009. When we disassembled the car for cleaning and respray, we found an interesting note written in German on what appeared to be a piece of an old brown "waxy" paper lunch bag under the package tray. Translated, the note reads: "if you are a man of humor and heart, then send me some money and my wife a mink, I am a poor dog. Signed Rolf Huber, Karrosserie Porsche"Attachment 221186
Here is a picture of the note we found in the '66 912....we worked with Porsche to find Rolf Huber this past year. We found a Rolf Huber of the right age who had been assigned to the "Karrosserie" at that time...when contacted, he replied the "he knew nothing of said note and had never put a note in a car"....sure Rolf, whatever you say!
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Russ, if the Color matches thes State it resides - I would not paint it. A Car in Florida color may be sunburnt residing in florida.
I always think the little 700 coupes and convertibles "smile" the way they look.
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Cheers
Uli
Christian said...
YES, YES, YES!Quote:
Our plan is to make it structurally sound, mechanically restore it and drive it as it is. I do not have pics of the washed but she cleaned up nicely.
John
GREAT story about the paper BAG !!!
reminded me about the coke bottle Dad said the dealer located in the passenger door of his new ' 60 Ford Galaxie , when he brought it in complaining about a chronic rattle. They presented him the evidence and " no charge " was applied to the bottom of the service ticket when he picked it up at the Ford garage.
By the way, when the paper bag signer you mention had loss of ' recall ' , do you think if mention of a small gift of money and a new mink for his wife would have changed his memory ?
I just picked up this 1971 250 a one owner all original 42K car. Attachment 221267
Funny you should post that Joe. I have been on again, off again searching for a 72/73 280SE 4.5. Nice car.
Wow, nice cars!
Russ, I had the exact same 21 Window bus back in the early seventies. Rock 'n' roll!
Uli, I had the exact same color BMW 1600-2 back then too! Just amazing.
1973 911S with 26,000 original miles that I found in Montreal. Tangerine with factory R stripes. Factory fresh everything including an 80 percent limited slip differential. Perfect car in every way. I should have kept this one :((amoung others that I passed along over the years).
Holy cr@p, Jens! That was yours?
I still remember this car. Saw it 1st at GAF/Ventura '04, then again at the Palo Verde Concours, later that summer/fall
Finding/buying such a beasty is one thing . . . .
. . . . but (--- gulp) . . . . flipping it?
(I'm assuming you made bank on this one, so . . .)
Where's it now?
VIN = 9113301416
Hey Rick, that's me and Heidi driving that little beauty! I had the rare privilege of putting quite a few miles on what well and truly is a brand new Early S. Wonderful car. I imported it and quickly sold it to Eade who kept it for a couple of years and sold it to a group back in Canada somewhere. I helped make that deal too, it was several years ago now, but it fetched $175K. High watermark for an 911S at the time, I think. I have a cool video here somewhere of blasting it up Smugglers Notch, VT.
Definitely. Here's the 700 mile S thread. There's a nice photo album recently added toward the end of the thread
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...ile-911-detail
Hhhh
Thanks for the reply, Jens
And yeah --- I can totally appreciate your position. Tough to keep that much equity sitting in your garage. Could build/keep a whole flock o' Little Rat Bastards for that ;)
Beautiful car, though
Too bad it doesn't show up here, any more . . .
Any chance you still have the VIN? Maybe post it here . . . . for posterity?
Jens' Toronto car had me going back and looking at my pics from that '04 German Auto Fest @Ventura
Here's another car from that show, for sale . . . an reportedly original, un-repainted/un-restored '69 S, Polo (?) Red, rear wiper, hounds tooth seats
VIN = ?
Anybody recognize this car, details to share, etc?
. . . again --- from the '04 GAF @Ventura . . .
This time? . . . a Rat Turbo! . . . woo-hoooooo
Nicked, scratched, donked, dirty . . . no guilt, here
Wanted to stick around/congratulate/shake this Man's hand, but I was headin' out when I spotted this Lovely Ruin
Where is this car, now?
no worries....memories alter the actual facts at least as much as sellers do
Camera flash.
Hey Lew, I'm sorry for the short remark. The weird thing about digital cameras is that they sometimes to weird things to colors. Not that your wrong necessarily, but look at this original Tangerine paint that the sun is playing games with. It never looked that way to my eyes.
I hear ya, jens, no offense....but in your photo, there is no body line that acts as a color changer....on the other car, I see it twice at opposite corners, the front hood to front left fender, this I can attribute to bad photography, trick of light or flash, but the rear quarter to door sure looks bad.....not to say it is that way in person, but often the amera lens, aided by the flash can pick up nuances in hue variations that the naked eye might miss.
Again, I didn't personally inspect the car, but i'd be hesitant to believe a claim of 'all original paint'
Lew, I agree. You never really know unless you have the chance to inspect it personally with an educated and experience eye. Funny that the grey Turbo shown looks to be a victim of the same condition. Might be newer paint, might be mud and dirt, might be camera trickery???
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. You have to prove it. I've heard that the PCA concours rules allow a car to be called "original paint" if only 45% of the original factory paint is preserved... including the underside of the hood and decklid!!! WTF?!
Different interpretations of "original" are all over the map. I had an original Silver '73 911T recently that was still in factory all original paint except for the rear license plate panel. That's pretty darn original, it had 3,100 real documented miles on it.
Purchased from the original owner in 2010.
Original paint [except driver's door], original interior, 24,000 original miles.
Wow, what a nice car!
Actually the requirement is 75% of original paint. This is the quote from the Parade Competition Rules:
"The Preservation Group has both cosmetic and mechanical connotations. It implies that the entered Porsche has most, if not all, of its original parts and surfaces (at least 75% original factory applied paint, upholstery and carpet)."
I was waiting for that, uhm, clarification. Thanks.
I like this one . . . .
VIN = 9111300152
Eng## = 6310232
Trans# = ?
Mileage = 108673?
Bahia Red on black leatherette
US Equipment
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...2-71-S-on-Ebay
Wonder what ever happened to this one? . . . a $40k eBay purchase by Road Scholars (?) 7.5 years ago
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...sual-ebay-junk!
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My 1967 912 in Aga Blue, original paint about 80%, original interior, 2nd owner, first had it 40 years.
While I wish my S were qualified for this string, I agree with others... it is past original once the paint, trim, etc. starts getting replaced. My pretty darn original BMW 3.0CS here. Purchased from the original family. Frances, named after the original owner, whose husband owned the dealership. Great records of her driving the service guys crazy with little nagging noises, fixes, etc. I bought her about 5 years ago with 54,000 miles (and the odo didn't break!). Mostly original paint, original interior, windows, trim, etc. Non-original Nardi wheel.
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Hi,
I just posted question about pleats in 1971 T 911. you car has them so were they origonally there? I am going to restuff my lumpy seats and want to know if pleats were origonal to 1971 911's.
al
. . . 10.7 km RS M471
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...sule-73-RS-471
. . . '67 S . . .
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...t-67S-Survivor
. . . w/ some interesting photos . . .
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...photo-archives
Of course! Paul Donkin's car. I have several photos of his car when I visited him in 2005. 1972 911S 9112301556. Irish green/Tan. I believe it was retrofitted with sports seats in the day, and 15x7 Fuchs. Ran like a scalded cat. He even let this then-17-year-old bozo drive it :eek:
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Just about 50k miles.
Original Traveler's Kit...I think it was missing a valve spring. :o H1s - not original . Euro '73 turn signal lens - not original
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Here is a 1971 911E with 57K oniginal miles, unrestored body,full records and books. Never a bit of rust 98% original paint. Watch for it in the classified next week.
Sorry, that picture really sucks.
Wow Rick, I'll have to crawl out from under my rock to come and see this one in person. I do love me a white 911!
I could employ you to take the pictures, as you can see, it's not my thing.
Yes, he sold the car to his friend in Istanbul, Turkey.
Here is my original 72S. It received a repaint in 1976 due to the factory clear coat issues. Other than that it is original. I just removed the engine for a rebuild at 108,000 miles. It has tan leather interior with tan corduroy seat inserts, AC, sunroof, and fog lights.
Also a picture of my 1931 Model A Ford Victoria with 80% original paint and original interior.
Beautiful cars Bill. I'm partial to the Gold one. ;)
'73 'S' Targa . . .
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...g-a-73-S-Targa
. . . 42k miles . . .
I am the second owner of my 1973 911S Coupe.... Tangerine Orange w/ Black int.... 35,XXX miles... as far as I know, it's original. :o
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It's not mine yet....
but I hope to have it under the christmas tree
All original '73E.
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Here's some more pics
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...hat-s-it-worth
Yeah Mike,,,,and you'd KILL to get that pimped up car,,,:D
Not quite original, but pretty darn close. Original paint, interior, engine, etc. Pure joy to drive.
- MR
Here is my 100% original 1973 T that I purchased a year ago. (I did switch the original "sugar scoop" headlights for a pair of H-4's; just never liked the sugar scoops) I am the 3rd owner of the this 69,000 mile car. Included with the car were the original purchase documents, owner's manual & maintenance booklet, window sticker and the receipts for the 1,000, 15,000 and 30,000 service. The first owner's had the car for 30 years and babied it like their first born child. Corresponded with them and she mailed me this picture of her with the car. Feel very fortunate to have found the car! Below is an e-mail that I recently received from the original owner.
Hi, Tim....I was thinking about the Porsche today and lo and behold, there was your mail. Thank you so much for sending the photos
My husband had always loved the 911 Porsche cars, and we decided to buy a 914, never dreaming we could afford a 911. So we went over to the dealership in Springfield to order one. We kept looking at your 911, which was on the showroom floor. We told the sales rep how much we loved the 911, and he said, "Well, you know, we just might be able to work out something for you." He said it had been there for quite some time and that they would really like to sell it. He said, in fact, that they had used the cigarette lighter to give to a customer who had lost his, so he said he would replace it. He talked to the bosses and they finally agreed to sell it to us for $8K+ (I think that was the price)., He said most people did not like the green color, and that the color was the main reason they were not able to sell it, but we loved it. Back then, I think it was called "Kelly green." Anyway, we had a 1966 Jaguar XKE 2+2, so we sold it, and with the help of our banker and a loan, we finally drove the 911 home. We never drove it in bad weather, and especially in the winter when there was snow and ice, because we didn't want any salt on it. It spent its entire life with us in the garage, so that's why the paint stayed so pristine in color. .By the way, I love the name Viper Green.
Thanks, again, for the photos. It was a bright spot in my day
Also are a couple of pictures taken this summer.
Still....only 1 owner
Interesting Thread...
I think that this could be a great 'reference' thread --- for anyone interested in seeing what 'really original' stuff is supposed to look
There are some pretty amazing cars that show up on our site --- I've got more than a few book-marked . . . but many are scattered all-over, hither-and-yon
With more and more questions about/attention being paid to 'what's correct' . . . I think it'd be nice if all the Lucky Owners of Really Original Cars had one place to at least introduce themselves + their charges --- and show off their stuff
Yeah-yeah --- freshly-built/restored cars + Hot Rods/Replicas/Tributes are fun to see/follow along with . . . but I also like to see those Lucky Cars that . . . after all the years and all the miles, all the 'trends' --- and all their Owners . . .
. . . just survived . . .
Don't even have to wash 'em --- not for me, anyway!
;)
The 'barn-find' Beige-gray . . .~30k mi?
VIN = 9113100478
Eng# = 6130762
Trans# = 331302
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...y-good-fortune
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...ght=9113100478
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Absolutely Joe. And a very nice little brother it is!
. . . 47,000 KM's (29,000 miles) Very original. Glaverbel, no undercoating anywhere, the "right" VIN plate , all numbers good on engine, transmission and body. No signs of any damage nor any signs of repair. It's real . . . Still had a Lufthansa hang tag on the mirror as it was originally air shipped . . .
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...ckhawk-RS-Sale
My 1973 911S with 26,000 original miles. I imported this car not very many years ago, many of you may remember it from Ventura. Factory Kardex verified rear window wiper, 80% LSD, side stripes, Tangerine... perfect and untouched from new.
I put quite a few miles on it myself!
Yes-yes-yes . . .
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...nal-cars/page3
. . . but what about the VIN?
Rear view....
And again with the RatBasterd version 2.
I know, I know Rick, but I just hadta post some more pix! This one was really hard to put on the truck to go out west. It was farging perfect!!!
The VIN is 9113301416.
Apparently it sold from San Diego to a group of doctors down in Canada, eh? I don't know who or where.
I spent some time going over that car when Eade had it at his place. Super nice! I remember him saying it was sold to some doctors who were investing in Porsches.
That's right Scott.
I think the tangerine 911S that Eade sold had leather interior as well. Chris
. . . . mostly :o
'73 'S' coupe . . .
VIN = 9113301152
More here . . .
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...911-2.4-s-1973
Great thread, but for me I must say, original is NOT repainted or resprayed!
All original, only one respray, sorry, that's not original for me ...
often heard this.
. . . Irish green 1515
VIN = ?
Eng# = ?
Trans# = ?
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...ivor-70S-value
Burgundy red 2424
VIN = 9110200759
Eng# = 6201774
Trans# = ?
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...inal-condition
great thread,...
sorry rick -
my gold one is a glass out respray on the upper side.
the paint was applied to a very high standard nearly 30 years ago.
all internal areas, sills, trunk, engine compartment, interior and underside are all still original.
from what i understand, the early clear over gold never really lasted that long in the calif sun.
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Hey, Mark . . .
Oh-well --- 'honorable mention,' then . . .
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...ght=72%2C+gold
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...ght=72%2C+gold
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...ght=72%2C+gold
. . . and thanks for straightening me out
;)
next one:
73 T, 1 owner, 28.000mls, all original, never repainted!
more to come...
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VIN = 9111200404
Eng# = 6210606
Trans# = (not available)
. . . as advertised on eBay . . .
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...uot-have-a-71E
. . . 1971 Porsche 911E Coupe with 100% factory-original Conda Green paint. One documented owner, 48K original miles, 100% factory-original interior in superb condition. All numbers match per Porsche's Certificate of Authenticity (COA). No rust anywhere, never wrecked or even scratched. Every panel, every jam, and every spec of the undercarriage is 100% factory original. Registrations going back to 1971, a fully-documented one-owner car. Purchased new in California by a nuclear physicist who lived in the wine country surrounding Lawrence Livermore laboratory in the East San Francisco Bay Area. He and his wife (also a nuclear physicist) retired from physics and became vintners (I will include a case of their wine). They planned to upgrade their wine-making facilities and decided to sell their prized 911E, along with a 1956 Porsche 356A Speedster which we also purchased. This 911E is a true "survivor" Porsche in every since of the word. Everything is completely original, in and out. The door panels were never even taken off. When you look in the corners of this car is when you begin to appreciate its authenticity . . .
(Not mine)
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The blue plate is not from 1971; should be a six character plate (3 numerals, 3 letters).
So, why was a newer plate issued? Out of state for more than a year? Went on 'unregistered' status and they did not retain the original plate? Would be interested to know the whole history.
Nothing says meticulously maintained original like freshly painted heat exchangers. And that original muffler doesn't even look like it's been farted through let alone driven for 48,000 thousand miles.
I'm sorry, there has obviously been some freshening up of things, and it sure does look like a nice car. :cool:
Seller advertised this as 'mostly original' paint, so . . .
. . . I'll just stick to these under-shots
VIN = 9111300152
Eng# = 6310232
Trans# = 7111091
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...hlight=peaches
(Not mine)
. . . Canadian . . .
. . . a 1971T in fabulous, original condition with what seems like original 46,000miles on the clock. It was advertised here on the board for some time and I only realised which car it was when I contacted a friend in Canada who had sent me pictures of this time warp a couple of years earlier . . .
. . . It wasn't that expensive and came with some nice NOS parts to get the shockers and exhaust back into shape . . .
. . . The few people whio have seen it out here are quite amazed as none of us has seen too many cars in this original, unrestored condition given that its 35years old . . .
. . . I have started cleaning the 35 years of road gime off the underneath to find pristine original black paint virtually unmarked. Many hours and lots of brushes later this car could easily be concours material without hardly a dollar to spend . . .
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...own-Under-quot
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My father's 1973 2.4E.
Delivered new to a doctor Tasmania (that small island at the bottom of mainland Australia).
We are the third owner and it has only travelled 28,000 miles from new.
Nice options including sunroof and single sports seat. Car is like new other than some minor paint stone chips etc.
We have owned it for about 8-10 years now. Just an amazing car to drive. Excuse the crappy mat on the drivers side!
love this tread ...
911 T 2,2 1971, California car, gold, about 36mls
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...ls-please-help
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Wow!!! what a beautiful car !!
Hello,
Could you post some pictures of front bonnet of 1972 911. I would like to see how the bottom of the front bonnet is sprayed. Last month I had my 1972 911 resprayed with the original silver, the bottom of the front bonnet wad sprayed with silver,not black,though. I think some bottom area may be black?
Thank you in advance.
Takahiro
The underside of the hood is all body color.
1971 911 T
VIN = 9111121045
Eng# = 6115254
Trans# = 7113378
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...nada-to-Europe...
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FS: @Bonhams Scottsdale - 1965 without reserve
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...ams+scottsdale
Discussed here: http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...ght=3022261965
Porsche 911 Coupe
Without reserve
US$ 55,000 - 75,000
€40,000 - 55,000
Chassis no. 302226
Engine no. 902350
http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/21392/lot/149/
Attachment 276862
I have a love hate relationship with this car Rick. :D When it was for sale in the states I drove from Rapid City (was on a job site out there) to Minneapolis in one weekend to look it over. Even had Aaron at Flat Six do a PPI for me. I ended up passing on the car because the Tan over Ivory wasn't my fave. I fully believed the mileage because of the interior. Without a doubt the most pristine, original interior I've ever sat in. Has to be on par with the 700 mile cars. Funny thing, at the time, the owner had a green astroturf cover on the rear parcel shelf, he he. At any rate, I thought one front fender had a paint touch up but, the rest was obviously original. On the one hand, I passed up a wonderful T for 13k but, on the other hand I picked up my 70S three weeks later for 16k. Had I pulled the trigger on that T, I wouldn't have the car I really lusted over. I think it quickly became a 30k car in the span of two to three years after heading up to the Great White North and a couple of sales. Possibly Six Figures now, I suppose.
Hey, Mike . . .
Yeah --- I think that a lot of us do . . .
'Original' cars are like that. What makes them special may not always make them 'buyable' . . . or even 'usable.' On the other hand, every time I see any un-touched original car . . . some can really take my breath away. Tough cars to pass on, too . . . especially if I can afford them
;)
Interesting comparison. A genuine OG 'T' (or 'E') versus . . . . an 'S.' Given the supply-vs-demand situation for each of these, I'd suspect OG cars can easily command 'S' prices. Very different cars to own/use/enjoy, though
Then again, I can't speak for actually having to choose between one-vs-the-other, but . . .
. . . years ago, I had an old Firebird Trans Am --- a '73 Super-Duty 455. Pontiac only built 252 cars that year, and this was one of the 72 4-speeds. Mine was May '72 production, too, so --- one of the 1st built. All-original --- never painted, wrecked, rusted, modified. Every decal, stamp, chalk-mark, part + date code intact/correct/un-marked. Window sticker, original jack + spare never down. Owned it 5 years, and only replaced the wheel flairs + exhaust w/ OEM bits . . . keeping everything except the exhaust . . . which was vaporized. This was Way Back before the 'net --- but even then . . . I knew exactly what I had
No desire to modify/'hotrod' it, or anything --- and the car was spotless/un-marked . . . Buccaneer Red. I wasn't too worried about mileage, but I do remember looking for replacement parts, at one point --- valve gear, cams, and especially the cast-iron exhaust headers . . . and seeing the term 'NLA' for the very first time
Then I started to worry about the car --- about maybe breaking it. Then I didn't drive it as much. Then I stopped driving it. Then I sold it
Too nice to use
Ever since then --- I've always looked for/bought 'runners' . . . cars whose value isn't tied to their odometers. Not to say that I wouldn't grab an OG/'survivor' if one came my way . . . but it's just turned-out that I've never owned anything near-as-nice as that TA since
Now? . . . I like too nasty to not use
;)
Did you buy the Right Car, Mike?
Oh yeah, without a doubt... At the time even though I wasn't looking for a 2.2S, that's what pulled the strings. I would have been equally happy with a nice T or E that I could play with. I just wanted into that 2.2 scene, ya know?
Just so happened that I landed an S. BONUS! Dusty's got some interesting history along with the tells even though I know she was 95% original hardware when I purchased her. I dig that..
With the Ivory car, I know it'd be all about maintaining the originality. I'd probably fret about every mile or scuff. Won't have to do that with Dusty, I'm not in this for the investment value... Last thing in my mind until I have to source some more parts.....
I like this thread :-)
My one, Comes to aution at Gooding in Scottsdale.
@Gooding & Company - 911 L 1968 no reserve
911 L 1968
Estimate: $140,000 - $180,000 | Without Reserve
Chassis: 11805286
All about the car: http://2shores.com/cars/offers/1968-...t!!/197/detail
Link to Gooding: http://www.goodingco.com/vehicle/1968-porsche-911-l-2/
Discussed here: http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...968-no-reserve
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The 1968 Porsche 911 L Of all the variants of the venerable Porsche 911, the L was the most luxurious and expensive version available to American customers in 1968. Produced for only one model year before it was replaced by the E, it is generally believed that fewer than 500 Ls were ever made. While many of the cars from this period were fitted with Porsche’s semiautomatic “Sportmatic” transmission, this example retains the reliable and sporting five-speed. 1968 was also the final year of the highly desirable short-wheelbase (SWB) 911s. These SWB cars have gained popularity and value in the last decade, and are a must-have for a serious Porsche collection.
This Car This gorgeous example was originally presented in 1968 to Robert Guthrie of Cornelius, Oregon, wearing a stunning coat of deep Irish Green over an interior of rich black leather. Later changing hands to Kevin LaHaie in 1975, the vehicle remained in Oregon with all routine maintenance carried out by specialists and thoroughly documented. This included an extensive engine rebuild in 2000 by respected Porsche specialist Paul Weir and a thorough inspection and tune-up by Precision Porsche Service of Spring Grove, Illinois, in 2012, which included a full compression and leak-down test prior to the acquisition of the 911 L by the consignor, a European Porsche enthusiast. The most unique facet of this already rare and desirable L is its fantastic original condition. This 911stillwearsitsas-deliveredcoatofIrishGreen paint, a gorgeous period color that is highly sought after by enthusiasts. With small flaws on the leading edge of the hood and bumper, the patina testifies to the L’s well-preserved journey. This originality extends to the interior, where the original black carpet still springs underfoot and the dash and other fitments show no sign of hardship during their 45 years. While any 911 L is a purely unique chapter in the storied history of Porsche, this example in particular is a perfect showcase of period craftsmanship and design. Mechanical work has been fastidiously maintained throughout the car’s three owners, and the L is ready to attend events. With the included owner’s manual, maintenance book, service records, and tool kit, this 911 L is a 1968 time capsule sure to be welcome at vintage shows and concours where its wonderful condition is sure to stand out.
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. . . w/ 3842 mi . . .
VIN = 9113102661
Eng# = ?
Trans# = ?
Wonder what-the-heck happened here?
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifie...php?id=1581929
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...l-Miles-189.5k
The Sepia T is really hot! So, they are still out there...
And speaking of Sepia . . .
VIN = 9113301365
Eng# = 6332137
Trans# = 731197
One couple-owned . . .
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...ighlight=sepia
. . . Minnesota (?) 'barn-find' --- w/ 29k mi
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...y-good-fortune
VIN = 9113100478
Eng# = 6130762
Trans# = 331302
Here is my Sepia baby. '73S, I'm the third owner. One repaint in 1979, but pretty much a survivor. Very original and although not perfect, she's mine, and I can drive her. ;) Here she is getting her rare bath.
Rick
how did we ever not cross paths at Parade 2013 ?
I have virtually the same pictures of both Sepia and Steve's gorgeous Beige Grey car.....
I so wish it was still with the folks in the Midwest, so we could all view it again. There have been some monumental 'exits' from our area lately. Sure hope the new owners love and cherish them the way the previous ones did ~
Nice sepia:)
Hey, MGJ . . .
Sorry Man --- last 'Parade' I attended was in San Diego, CA . . . early '90s? As for any photos --- most are from our site (or auctions, sometimes) . . . some may actually be yours!
As for cars 'leaving,' one of the best reasons to catalog these OG cars (and their VINs) is because some may not re-appear for a while --- if ever . . . especially as their values escalate
Anyone remember 'Gramps'? . . .
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...ghlight=gramps
Sold off to Switzerland, where the owner (mike66) got tired of stressing over him . . . sold him --- now? . . . . pfft!
All that's left? A few threads, some pics . . . and his VIN . . .
9110300251
Short Version?
When you see a special car? --- any special car . . . take good pictures
;)
I have a couple of pretty original cars although both have under gone a respray. The first is a 1968 912 with only 12,000 original miles and a 1974 911S Targa with 22,000 miles.
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Attachment 277521
VIN = 9112300952
Eng# = ?
Trans# = ?
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...ght=9112300952
911 T 1973 all original Virginia car...
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...l-Virginia-car...
new Arrival:
VIN # 91131011007
Engine 6131368
'73 T, all original, 28t mls, first paint, factory aircon., bill of sale etc.,..
That's what I like.
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A shameless plug for a well used little brethren. This 912 is very original as far as options go, though the TTG 118s were added a week after factory delivery by Porsche in Vienna. The H3 lights shown were originally H1s, now being restored by a noted member of this board. Little else changed during the 2007 restoration of the car, other than respray, mechanical tweaks, and set up. The pic with the dog is the car loaded for restoration. The last pic is at Greystone PCA 2012 Concours in Los Angeles, overall winner. No accidents or detectable rust, 143,000 miles when restored, now 13,000 miles more, all sublime. -Richard
. . . w/ 50k mi . . .
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...43-Found-a-69S
beh911 - I respect the purer views of "original", though even after 45 years of ownership we all can't quite get there. These cars are meant to be used, which entails upkeep and improvement, at least if one wants to keep up with California Targa event drivers! And one must respect the contributions of the 912 to the success of the Porsche marque in the late 60s and subsequent longevity of the 911S. Always wanted one! -Richard
Richard,
My comment wasn't directed at you.
Very early in the thread i knew it was going to be interesting to see the variety of interpretations of "original" and that is holding true. I think it is one of the most overused descriptors for a car and therefore almost has no relevance anymore.
We have original cars with repaints, original cars with engine rebuilds, original cars with suspension mods, original cars with aftermarket wheels, original cars with fresh interiors, original paint cars with panels repainted, cars still owned by their original owners, etc. IMO, the word is starting to feel...dirty, in a used car salesman kinda way.
In the end, we all probably owe it to ourselves to just admit there is no original car left that meets the strict definition of the word.
Re: 912 or T vs S. condition would dictate my next purchase over model type. I love them all.
Re: meant to be used. I agree with you. I put more miles on my 44 year old 911 last year than my regular car. It is going to tick over 90k right around its 45th birthday in Feb.
. . . w/ mg American Racing wheels, too!
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...rvivor-67-911S
. . . 78k mi . . .
VIN = 9113112247
Eng# = 6135965
Trans# = 731503
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...since-1974-65k
. . . w/ Sportomatic
VIN = 11805270
Eng# = 3380295
Trans# = 3180598
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...Polak-Survivor
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...-survivor.html
. . . . . . . . . .
More, here --- see post #27 . . .
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...00k-911T/page3
. . . Bahia w/ 75k mi . . .
VIN = 9113101973
Eng# = 6133771
Trans# = 336631
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...s-Matching-COA
VIN = ?
Eng# = ?
Trans# = ?
CA tag = UKU 994
Black-on-black . . . 26k mi . . . .
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...!-Lots-of-pics!
VIN = ?
Eng# = ?
Trans# = ?
. . . 54k mi . . .
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...T-Original-car
VIN = 11805399
Eng# = 3281354
Trans# = 3282468
28k mi . . .
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...-28-411-miles)
VIN = 9110301353
Eng# = ?
Trans# = ?
. . . aka the famous '700-mile '70 'S''
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...ile-911-detail
VIN = ?
Eng# = ?
Trans# = ?
67k Ossi blue, ex-sonett43, now ///msw3 's (?)
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...erson%2C+emory
VIN = 119220871
Eng# = ?
Trans# = ?
. . . the Roger Grago (rst73) 'barnfind E' . . .
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...go%2C+barnfind
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...1E-Sportomatic
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...light=grago%2C
I believe this car was resprayed --- by one of the Emory brothers . . . back when it was 1st sold/serviced @Iverson . . . but it was 'in-period,' so . . .
Well I do suspect it no longer has the "factory" air in the tires :rolleyes:
. . . black-on-black --- +1-owner . . .
VIN = 9112301500
Eng# = 6322189
Trans# = 7328863
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...S-All-original
. . . w/43k mi
VIN = 9111301340
Eng# = 6311831
Trans# = ?
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...wheel-question
'Dad's'
. . . Jade Green, ex-Bert Jayasekera
VIN = 9112101471
More here . . .
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...-drives-to-GAF
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...urvivor-Part-2
First Long-hood that I ever drove . . . .
. . . thanks, Bert
VIN = 9110121325
Eng# = ?
Trans# = ?
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...82-New-Arrival
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...-taking-offers
VIN = 9113110285
Eng# = 6130660
Trans# = 331015
. . . 17k mi . . . .
http://www.aasesales.com/collections...targa-for-sale
VIN = 119310057
Eng# = 6390789
Trans# = 7103363
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...reet-the-world
I just want my w/s washers to work. :)
Richard Newton
Silly Tech Stuff
VIN = 307588S
Eng# = 961309
Trans# = 104327
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...or-Sale/page98
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...nt!-US-440-000
. . . 24k mi
VIN = 11800983
Eng# = ?
Trans# = ?
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...-from-new-68-S
I see some others have sneaked in some non-P examples, so here's one of mine:
http://i60.tinypic.com/sl1f1t.jpg
1961, purchased new by my mother, routine maintenance only, factory paint, 79K miles.
Here's a shot of the interior:
http://i61.tinypic.com/fbdm6p.jpg
Car was recently granted the MBCA Silver Star Preservation Award.
That's beautiful.
Scott
. . . 31.7k mi . . .
VIN = ?
Eng# = ?
Trans# = ?
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...87-An-original
. . . 28k mi . . .
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...e-Introduction
. . . 65k mi . . .
. . . Fraise
VIN = ?
Eng# = ?
Trans# = ?
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...ed-VALUE/page2
VIN = ?
Eng# = ?
Trans# = ?
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...with-Valuation
It is a 1969 912, but I thought it was important to show this particular color interior for originality sake. On sand beige no less.
I've often wondered where that Signal Green 69S lives... Love that car
Mr Ahearn (Rennman) has a site, buys + sells . . .
http://www.porsport.com/porsches
. . . and I'm sure he's seen his share of special cars
Maybe he has more details/pictures/stories/etc? . . .
. . . maybe he might share?
VIN = 9110201258
Eng# = 6202447
Trans# = 7701583
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...ner-Barn-Fresh!
VIN = 308430S
Eng# = 962076
Trans# = ?
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...nions-on-Value
VIN = 9112102213
Eng# = 6123455
Trans# = 328461
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...d=1#post808613
My brother had both a 300sl roadster and a coupe, said the roadster was much more fun to drive than the coupe. He said the coupe felt like a truck until it hit 100mph
This was a response to the photo of the gorgeous 300SL roadster in this thread in case anyone is wondering :)
VIN = 9111111918
Eng# = 6116649
Trans# = 711676
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...or-Albert-Blue
Magnificent photos of a beautiful car.
VIN = 9113600691
Eng# = 6630691
Trans# = ?
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...73-Carerra-RSL
All original 911T, with 54K miles.
Saw this unbelievably original 1965 911 at the 2015 Porsche Parade and thought it belonged on this thread
A few more pictures of this spectacular car.
truly spectacular.....coud be useful if the owner would agree to collaborate to this thread:
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...65-cars/page26
Lots of important details, interesting for me to compare it with 301666
Wonder what the red 1965 is worth these days at a high end sale block?
a lot of marks .......................
VIN = 9113201132
Eng# = 6231728
Trans# = ?
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...t-Brownie-quot
More pics of Weldon Scrogham's '65 911 showing the COA with engine and trans numbers. Also, tool kit and "travel" kit for this wonderful car.
I remember when that red car used to be driven around in anger.
Attachment 344433A quite spectacular car indeed of Mr. Scrogham !
Have seen it before and it is so incredible, words hardly can express.
Sure do wish it was mine......
In case you folks are tiring of nothing but 911 pics ( eye roll , cheesy laugh under the collar ), here are some of my original paint, original interior cars.
Not all are 911s. I will post the photo of my '88 Carrera later, as it needs to be washed and waxed first before I post.....
but I truly do love the genuine article no matter what it is, as long as it's not been repainted or restored. I love those as well, but the all o.e. patina is what really gets me going.
1984 - 944 - M456 Weissach prepared: Hand built and tweaked engine, Sport Suspension, H/D swaybars, FUCHS, and LSD. Came with full paperwork and checkoff of 29 miles of dial-in by a Porsche engineer. Most of these went to race teams running Escort Series or other similar showroom stock series back in the day. This one was ordered with the Recaro seating, but they did not arrive; the white one the dealer ordered for himself had them in it.
Ordered new by me by special arrangment with a 'dealer with an in with Porsche'. Nothing has been painted or reupholstered. Factory original with 68,000 miles. It runs out strong for being a normally aspirated 2.5 litre.
Attachment 344439
This one is all original EXCEPT one repaint about 15-20 years ago.
It was ordered out new as a PCA Driver's Instructor car as a 'Delete Special' ( deleted sunroof, cigarette lighter, glove box lid, rear wiper, console, gas cap lock, sound deadener, privacy shade, etc. )
Some items were added back on, such as the metal front fenders and hood, plastic bumpers removed, bumpers converted back to steel, and the deep rear spoiler removed and put back to typical road car style when it was made streetable once again.
One set of ATS cookie cutters, one set of 15 inch black center FUCHS windmills, and one set of 8 and 9 inch FUCHS Gullydoeckels were included, but the plastic bits are still retained by the original owner )-;
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The seldom seen headliner of a 'sunroof delete' 944, as most came to North America with either a manual ( early cars ) or an electrically operated roof.
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the interior was preserved so well, because he installed recaro seating and put these up in his garage attic, wrapped in plastic and 'lexoled up'. The leather was glove soft and like new, even after a couple of decades of storage.
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