Australian Mirror....

Hey guys,

I'm after some help that specifically relates to Australian and ROW markets so guess this is the best place to ask the question....

I'm looking for a right side door mirror for my 1974 3.0RS project and would appreciate if anyone can help or point me in the right direction?

....many here will probably know this however I've just learnt that 74-77 cars for Australia, Japan and Hong Kong had a mirror that differed to all other markets.....a rounded edge flag type right mirror.....

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...db3ec3a8_b.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...a4120da4_b.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...e1bf6595_b.jpg

....this mirror also happened to be fitted to the six RHD 3.0RS cars produced in 1974 rather than the normal large flag mirror seen on LHD cars.....

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...5c32dbbf_b.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...1d0d9f2f_b.jpg

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...it's a small detail that I'd like to get right on my build and not concerned if the mirror is black or chrome......if anyone can help I'm happy to pay good money and would naturally be eternally grateful :)

darren@swindoncarandvan.co.uk

Cheers,

ugly and cool at the same time...

Shape seems identical to late VW Type 3 mirrors, which are mounted on the pillar, not the door top. The surround is rubber?

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Originally Posted by Bullethead

Shape seems identical to late VW Type 3 mirrors, which are mounted on the pillar, not the door top. The surround is rubber?

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...thanks, I think it's almost certain that the mirror has been sourced from another manufacturer and I've looked at various VW/Audi/Mercedes variants etc. It is very close to the Type 3, not sure about the surround.

Cheers,

They have come up for sale a few times on our TYP901 Australian forum

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Originally Posted by 9er

They have come up for sale a few times on our TYP901 Australian forum

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....thanks for the reply. I have reached out to a couple of people who are forum regulars who said they'd kindly keep a look out for me although any leads are much appreciated.

Love Adelaide btw.....I obtained a South Australia State sponsored visa in 2007/8 and visited Adelaide on two separate occasions back then to check out job opportunities and places to live. The crunch of 2008 fundamentally (but mostly my wife's cold feet) stopped us emigrating but I often wonder how life would have been if we had, I doubt we'd have come back. I heard they were trying to double the population back then so expect it's changed quite a bit now. Wonderful city :)

Cheers,

Nuh still a lazy big country town but a wonderful city non the less, with some fabulous golf courses.

I would happily live there, peak hour traffic lasts 10 minutes but they wouldn't have me, I am a Victorian!!!

A question to those who know this mirror: is the fitting on door the same e.g. holes so totally interchangeable with the round Durant drivers door mirror of 1973 used on model year 73 RHD 911?

Hi Steve

Nope not interchangable if you wanted to use the factory durant mirror holes of a 73 in Australia was fitted further back and higher up as per the choc brown car in the first 2 pics

David, who built my ST has a pic of a Porsche dealership from back in the day full of 74 cars all with this mirror and all located in same place as the mentioned pic.

Cheers Clyde

Since I asked found old photo of Nick Faure in the AFN one of the half a dozen original rhd 74. Published early autumn 1974
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Not sure it is same mirror but for posting for reference. If same maybe U.K. and aus positioned differently. Think of the six one went to Hamilton in Aus others went to likes of Vesty, Bamford, Hesketh ( himself not Hunt as often reported incorrectly) and Faure via AFN

Nick and I were planning to meet up in April day of lockdown but got postponed due to Covid but expect meet soon once restrictions lifted — doubt he’d recall a detail like this

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Originally Posted by 911MRP

.......If same maybe U.K. and aus positioned differently.....

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....the ex-Alan Hamilton Australian 3.0RS has the mirror in the same position (at least it does now) as the UK RS's so expect it was only the Aussie Carrera's that differed....

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...3dbb3c9a_b.jpg


Cheers,

Hi Darren,

I had a left side mirror like this, it was NOS from Sonauto French Porsche dealer ;)

https://www.early911sregistry.org/fo...-(Carrera-3-0)

That's similar but a different mirror OliveR, I've never seen a left sided mirror of this type.

Cheers,

Something I thought I'd only find in your part of the world turned up only 40 minutes from where I live.....

.....by pure chance I was trying to source a rare RS part from a dealer (of which the dealer has two NOS items but won't sell) when I mentioned in passing this mirror I was looking for and amazingly he had this available.....

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...eb48b68d_b.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...72114e44_b.jpg

.....although the exact item needed, the mirror will need to be stripped and coated black however I do have another lead on a black door mirror so this one may be become surplus to requirements. If it does I'll post its availability here.

Huge thanks to all those that have helped me trying to find this part :)

Cheers,

That is different to the Aussie mirror, which looks like this and this is the sort I was telling you David multiple versions of

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Originally Posted by BOYER73S

That is different to the Aussie mirror, which looks like this and this is the sort I was telling you David multiple versions of

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Thanks Clyde, I'm learning and guess the mirror as you've pictured is more commonly known as the 'Aussie' mirror although my understanding is the one I have was originally fitted to 74 (onwards?) Aussie spec 2.7 Carrera's and certainly all RHD Carrera 3.0RS's.

Anyhow's I have what I need and appreciate your help with the search. :)

Cheers,

Took these shots of mirrors on Aus del carrera's years ago at Rennsport Sydney.

These mirrors are just like buses! :eek:.....

.....I was offered another two NOS mirrors that I collected today.....

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...25a782a3_b.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...1d43387e_b.jpg

.....for reference part number is 911 731 017 05 although surprisingly my local friendly Porsche Parts Manager couldn't find it anywhere on the UK Porsche parts system......

....so, for a part I feared could elude me forever ultimately ends up being the easiest to find!......all I need now is another two cars so I can use the spare mirrors! :).....

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...c631358d_b.jpg

Cheers,

That's amazing! Serendipity is clearly your friend.

Any idea how many variations there are and are both versions you have the same PN? Just from the images in this thread I count 4 or 5... chrome with grey, chrome with black, all black and no rubber.

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Originally Posted by Bullethead

That's amazing! Serendipity is clearly your friend.

Any idea how many variations there are and are both versions you have the same PN? Just from the images in this thread I count 4 or 5... chrome with grey, chrome with black, all black and no rubber.

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.....I'm not really sure but have a theory that all mirrors were initially chrome and painted black for RS, and possibly other models....I understand this was certainly true for chrome number plate lamps that were painted black on RS's....

.....again no clue on the black/grey rubber lip although suspect on the mirror without it's just missing.

There's only one part number I'm aware of and maybe the lip was just changed at some point during production.

Incidentally the design allows you to switch from left to right and I have seen a period RSR photo with these mirrors fitted both sides......I strongly suspect this mirror came from another manufacturers parts bin!

Ultimately that could mean one version!

Cheers,