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    Koni insert replacement

    Need a little help
    I got a set of original Koni Struts from my 72s. I got the dust covers off in preparation for installing the new inserts. I have done Boge before and the top that threads out to put inserts in is in the shape of a nut, wenches right off. On the Koni it is round. A put a pipe wrench on it but would not break free. I did not put allot of torch on it out of free of damaging the casing.
    First question is do they tread out? There are two holes in the top, is this for a special tool? Also appears to be an interior nut with two slots??? Am I doing this right or are they just 40 year old parts and tough to get apart. I was able to prop them up and pool some PB blast to help break down any rust. I do not want to use heat because they actually have really nice original paint. Any advise would be appreciated.
    Also read where, when I do get them apart and new insert in I need to fill with some type of fluid for cooling what should I use?
    Thanks Baxter

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    Yes, you need a tool with two drive pins in it to get it off.
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    Okay any suggestions on where to get one or would I be better off taking to a shop

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    Also what about the fluid?

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    Koni rebuilds their shocks at the North American service center in Tennessee I believe. I hear they are very helpful, maybe contact them?
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    Yes, there is a spanner with pins that fit into the threaded cover....several of the Euro tool vendors sell generic pin spanners (Samstag, etc). I have seen the cover removed with a pipe wrench, and channel locks. Also one can notch the edge of the cap and use a punch or chisel to get it turning. Some heat should not harm the top tubular section of the strut...and you can't hurt the insert as it is disposable anyway. As per the shop manual the "fluid" is 30W motor oil 50cc.
    Koni is located in Lexington, KY. They will not rebuild the front inserts, only rear telescoping units.
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    Your pipe wrench should work fine..that's what I use...just lean on it a bit more. If your installing new Koni inserts you'll get a pair of new gland nuts anyway. With your new inserts you can put a small amount of light oil or antifreeze in the tube before installing the insert. The oil or antifreeze acts as a heat sink for the insert. It doesn't take much liquid as the insert displaces a good bit of the area in the strut tube. You'll want to have the coolant come about 2/3 up the length of the inert. I usually use the dip stick method to get it right...put a little fluid in the tube, stick the insert in and then pull it out to see the level of the fluid.
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    Thanks to everyone for the help, sounds like a little more aggressive with the pipe wrench

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    I have the special tool,,,,all that will happen is you'll break off the pins! I have always used the looooong pipe wrench method. Let the top of the insert stick back up in the top mount, then slowly let the strut turn to the end of the steering rack in the direction the strut will turn when loosening the nut. Now the strut is braced and you can really put some leverage on the nut.
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    I bought one of these and used a heavy rubber mallet and it came right off.
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