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    Reference: Tool Rolls & Contents

    69-73 contains:

    P208 generator pulley holder wrench - this is the only piece showing any use, at the end.
    Klein 21mm solid spark plug socket
    DIN 911 SW 10 - Klein 10 mm Allen wrench
    160 mm combination pliers with cross-hatched handles and chrome plated jaws
    -Klein Phillips screwdriver with red plastic handle embossed "10000 VOLT W-GERMANY"
    -Klein elongated-blade screwdriver with red plastic handle embossed "10000 VOLT W-GERMANY"
    5 "Drop-Forged-Steel Germany" open-end wrenches:
    * 8 x 9 mm
    * 10 x 11 mm
    * 12 x 13 mm
    * 14 x 15 mm
    * 17 x 19 mm
    Klein 19 mm lug wrench with tapered end
    Chrom Vanadium 19x22 mm box wrench
    Like new basketweave vinyl bag with grey interior and perfect Cad plated clasps
    1 Porsche Phoenix 9.5 x 710 Fan belt
    Small Fuse Pouch with 5 fuses (4 sealed)
    Unused Porsche Towel with label "Made in Germany 100% Cotton"
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    Allen,

    which is the correct Allen wrench? I have 3 with different markings: Klein 10, then DIN 911 SW 10 - Klein 10 and the last one has no marking. Is there any particular needed for SWB or LWB toolkit?
    Martin

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    SWB Spark Plug Wrench

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeephyrin View Post
    Allen,

    which is the correct Allen wrench? I have 3 with different markings: Klein 10, then DIN 911 SW 10 - Klein 10 and the last one has no marking. Is there any particular needed for SWB or LWB toolkit?
    All the Hex wrenches I've seen are marked Klein. Here are some correct SWB spark plug sockets. I've seen BOTH 10mm and 12mm (rare) hex-drive versions. Thanks.

    -Allen-
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    Your kit works a '73 S? The pattern on the vinyl is different than a "69. Please verify?

    Thanks

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    73 1/2 and RS Toolkit

    Here is an exemplar 73.5 MY toolkit. Note the tie bag and tapered top spark plug wrench not to mention the unobtanium reversible screwdriver. IMHO, a SNAP bag is also correct for this period as I've seen MANY kits with such. Thanks.

    -Allen-
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    Useful info copied from an actual ad and edited to be used as a reference...
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    Kit from one-owner early 73 (Build date Sept 72) 9113110285
    Tapered plug wrench, Hapwe pliers and SSS wrenches
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    SWB Spark Plug Tools

    Quote Originally Posted by Allen Henderson View Post
    All the Hex wrenches I've seen are marked Klein. Here are some correct SWB spark plug sockets. I've seen BOTH 10mm and 12mm (rare) hex-drive versions. Thanks.

    klein group.jpg
    Thanks for the great thread. A recent sale of a "1965 toolkit" featured the SWB spark plug wrench shown below. Is this a true Porsche SWB wrench? Its barrel differs slightly from Allen's samples above. And a response to the sale thread seemed to cast doubt as it lacks the "humps" in the transition to the 21mm end (for clearing the spark plug). If its not for a SWB 911, what application is it?

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    Bill,

    In my opinion, your Spark Plug Wrench is a "correct" version of the accepted Klein 21. Clearly there were several versions. It looks pretty rusty though. You can try cleaning it up with polish and a brass brush. No doubt the plating is totally shot and you'll have to use a steel wire brush to get the rust off. IF the plating is gone, you can polish the bare metal but, of course, the finish will not be original/correct, but polished raw steel-it will most likely have a black color tinge. I have heard from some real experts, one in particular is a well-known 356 restoration expert, that matching the original plating is nearly impossible. And is, at best, a hit or miss proposition. That is why folks replate, say their wrenches, in a set; although they don't get an original finish, at least they match each other. Let us know how you make out. Thanks.

    -Allen-
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    1968 Toolkits Spark Plug Wrench and Messko

    Recently, I had a off-line conversation with a well-known knowledgeable list member regarding the pictured SWB spark plug wrench(s) and when they transitioned to the later knurled knob version. My 901 friend and I have assembled a picture and data database of a few thousand SWB cars and of about 400 1968 911s. So, I looked through the pics for toolkit photos. About 10% of the cars (these came from for sale cars on eBay, the list and other places) had toolkits pictured. I especially like photos of unrestored cars and photos of their toolkits for authenticity. Many of the toolkits were clearly wrong with waffle bags or even totally wrong much later bags. Most all the kits that had screwdrivers had the correct Klein drivers, some had the later 10,000 volt screwdrivers but were clearly, from other clues in the kit, not original. About eight kits had the 10mm drive spark plug wrench pictured below, where we could tell and the wrench wasn't down in the bag so we couldn't.There were some knurled knob spark plug wrenches in the kits but most of these were in "assembled" incorrect kit with, say, 10,000 volt screwdrivers. There were, somewhat suprisingly, several kits with 356 or 912 tools: the generator and/or the spark plug wrench.

    There were ony a couple of cars with photos of the Messko but this is not suprising as these are often not in the toolkit, having either been lost, stolen or in the glove compartment. However, I just recalled I purchased an original 1968 912 kit from a gentleman who took it out of this 912 when it was new, put it away and sold it to me many years later and it HAD an original dual scale Messko in a grey vinyl pouch, just as we might expect ! So, to me a maroon/red Messko tire gauge was included in 1968 Porsche toolkits.

    BTW it is distinctly possible that Klein, an international tool company still today, sold the "Klein 21" spark plug wrench at your local German hardware or automotive store. Just like Drop Forged Wrenches which, Porsche used, and were sold to the general public. This would explain the various versions of the open-end wrenches as well as the Spark Plug Wrench. Of course some special versions were apparently made just for Porsche. The 12/14 Drop Forged apparently was made for Porsche for the 356 kit as it is very rare. And, for example, the Hazet (little "a") 450 10/14 open end wrench found in 356A kits or the 11/12 found in the same kits; these are very rare and probably were made special for Porsche. For Drop Forged and Hazet wrenches, on eBay for example you'll see lots of "Porsche" advertised wrenches in odd sizes (and asking BIG Buck$) that were NEVER in a Porsche kit; frankly, mostly in-Germany sellers preying on the innocent and ill-informed or, giving them the benefit of the doubt, ill-informed sellers (although I've emailed many of them with links to, for example www.356tools.com.

    And also my conclusion is the the 10mm drive Spark Plug Wrench pictured below was used consistently in SWB toolkits up and through 1968. I make the usual disclaimer that there, of course were exceptions and, we are ALWAYS open to addional information and are more than happy to change our opinion with more or better data. Thanks.

    -Allen-
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