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    txs! I love these stories!
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    This is some great information
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    I have 2 questions just to confirm

    - so for my MY66 (manufactured 9/65) I need a 4.5X 15? Is that right?

    - if so, does anyone know if someone has a set of chromed ones? Stamped before that date is preferred but not a must!

    Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by wjishi View Post
    This is some great information
    Thank you
    I have 2 questions just to confirm

    - so for my MY66 (manufactured 9/65) I need a 4.5X 15? Is that right?

    - if so, does anyone know if someone has a set of chromed ones? Stamped before that date is preferred but not a must!

    Thanks
    Yes, 1965 and 1966 Porsche 911s and 912s had 4½ x 15 steel wheels. Chrome-plated wheels were standard on 911s and optional (290.00 DM - $72.50) on 912s.

    As to sources, Adam Wright at Unobtanium and Jim Breazeale at EASY should have good stocks of used wheels. Stoddards has reproduction steel wheels and Sierra Madre Collection has refurbished and reproduction steel wheels.


    And, those wheels would need hub caps. 911s and 912s came with chromed Porsche emblems on the hubcaps. Colored enamel crests were optional (16.00 DM - $4.00) but seem to have been uncommon. Hubcaps are difficult to restore. Bob Barns at the highly regarded Verne’s Chrome Plating wouldn't touch them. I once saw a post in which someone claimed to have gotten hubcaps restored, but I don't know by whom.

    Hubcaps with chromed crests are available from Stoddards and Sierra Madre Collection. It may be cheaper to buy hubcaps with enamel crests and harvest chrome crests from used hubcaps. The crests can be rechromed fairly inexpensively.
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    Sierra Madre offers one hubcap restoration for free for every wheel restoration (re-chrome) you have them do, no idea about the quality. Jim why would it be so difficult to restore the caps?
    I have heard that if you want to re-chrome the wheels, the rim and heart need to be separated and after the chroming be welded together again. True?
    member 2971 Jacques
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    Quote Originally Posted by pss View Post
    Sierra Madre offers one hubcap restoration for free for every wheel restoration (re-chrome) you have them do, no idea about the quality. Jim why would it be so difficult to restore the caps?
    I have heard that if you want to re-chrome the wheels, the rim and heart need to be separated and after the chroming be welded together again. True?
    Well, I've never found anyone to restore hubcaps. As I said, Bob Barns at the highly regarded Verne’s Chrome Plating wouldn't touch them--he identified them as "chrome washed stainless." I'm guessing that "chrome washed stainless" is chromium plated directly over stainless steel, if so, it's probably nearly impossible to do anything about scratches.

    As I said, I had heard that somebody had gotten hubcaps restored. I didn't know Sierra Madre Collection found such a service; I'll have to ask them about it.


    As far as I know, and according to everyone I've ever talked to, you do need to separate the center from the rim to rechrome a steel wheel. Otherwise, you won't get the copper, nickle, and chrome into the crevices. That's why rechroming steel wheels costs so much.
    Jim Alton
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