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    Standard leather wrapped wheels start with a tubular steel frame (not a flat frame like a MOMO). Then the rubber core molded over that. Then leather wrap. Nothing between the leather and the rubber.

    As for the sport 380s, as has been shown several times, the ebonite core has a felt wrap and then a soft cotton mat (not woven) and then the leather. I highly doubt a leather wrap directly on the ebonite as it would have a tendency to shift.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 70SATMan View Post
    I highly doubt a leather wrap directly on the ebonite as it would have a tendency to shift.
    That is what I thought.
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    So, what is the caution on installing a countersunk 914 347 804 11 onto a 901 car? I also have a leather wrap countersunk 914 347 805 11, same question. I don’t install the canceling ring; just something else to break!!!....cliff
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cliff View Post
    So, what is the caution on installing a countersunk 914 347 804 11 onto a 901 car? I also have a leather wrap countersunk 914 347 805 11, same question. I don’t install the canceling ring; just something else to break!!!....cliff
    The "caution," if there really is one, is around the bevel (see photos) on the "backside" of the countersunk front of the hub. In practice, we think this is no, zero, problem. If anyone has a different experience, please let us know. With all those splines the wheel when bolted is solidly mounted. BTW, never saw a horn cancel ring break unless it was on the wheel and the wheel was dropped. Thanks.
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    great thread, im in the market for a correct wheel to fit my 1972 ST build
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    Is it still considered an RSR wheel if the part number (914.347.803.10) is the same but the date code is December 1969?

    Quote Originally Posted by Allen Henderson View Post
    914 347 803 10 and the date code Sept, 1973 make it a "real" Porsche 911 RSR steering wheel. It was found on RSRs and was also available as a spare part. Cool wheel. Thanks !

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    Is it still considered an RSR wheel if the part number (914.347.803.10) is the same but the date code is December 1969?
    Since no one else as yet answered the question, I'll give it a shot. We know that some well-documented early RS's came with 914.347.806.10 (and rarely 805.10) steering wheels dated 1970. Although later RS's had 1972 and 1973 dated wheels. Using that data, I'd think an RSR could have come with a 1970 wheel. Thanks.

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    Edited in view of Allen’s correction to his prior post — following the edit it now shows the correct RS 806.10 steering wheel part number for the early RS as per the input from a number of early Carrera RS owners / documented cars plus it aligns to the factory parts manual for the Carreras RS wheel ( uniquely 806.10 is marked 1 in Carrera 2.7 column).


    The different factory document in image (attached) shows only one steering wheel part number for Carrera RS with conversion packet M491. It lists this M491 380mm wheel as leather wheel part number 914.347.901.00. This M491 factory parts list was published in Feb 1973 by Porsche at time when Carrera RS M491 were actually being assembled. It is hard copy ( not online PET) and would’ve had a lead time but it is a simpler document than the 72/3 parts list. Information in a hard copy factory source contemporary with the model might inform discussion on the correct M491 wheel for those interested in a relevant factory datapoint.

    I don’t have an M491 so personally less concerned about things posted here being correct about M491. However in skimming through posts on the thread it occurs to me a steering wheel 914.347.803.10 dated September 1973 would be after the whole 73 Carrera RS model build programme was completed? Maybe pertinent if using that wheel as an authentic reference example of model 73 M491 steering wheel?

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    Thank you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Allen Henderson View Post
    Since no one else as yet answered the question, I'll give it a shot. We know that some well-documented early RS's came with 914.347.806.10 (and rarely 805.10) steering wheels dated 1970. Although later RS's had 1972 and 1973 dated wheels. Using that data, I'd think an RSR could have come with a 1970 wheel. Thanks.

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    I will DEFER to the RS owners and if NONE had 805.10's so be it ! No problemo. We should, or can add, as far as I know an 914.347.805.10 is identical (except for the part number) to an 806.10. Again, though, I defer. Back to the RSR, weren't ALL RSR's by definition "competition?? Has anyone documented their 914 347 901 00 on their RSR? Actually, RS's are a dime a dozen..just kidding guys..but will the owner of an RSR step up ? I forgot how many there were?...I just looked it up only 55. The RSRs were totally awesome! Back 20+ years ago I needed an AOL screen name and DrRSR popped into my mind and I still am. Being real race cars, most of them were modified and successful for many years on the racetrack as all you RS guys, and others are well aware. I love RSR's in their original configuration...as well as RS's too of course. Thanks.

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