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    what does a 1964/1965 engine mounting 'sword' look like?

    I have 2 engine mounting 'swords' of different type. In restored 1964/1965 cars I have found both types, but I do not know which one is correct for which production period.
    I saw the first one below on a 1964 car. This type has an edged side for extra stability/strength. The second one I have seen on 1965 cars and is also on my 1965 engines and looks more simple.
    What does yours look like?
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    The second one ( without the turned edge) is correct for 64 and 65 cars. They often broke which is why you see cars with the later version that was redesigned to be stronger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RennTyp View Post
    The second one ( without the turned edge) is correct for 64 and 65 cars. They often broke which is why you see cars with the later version that was redesigned to be stronger.
    I would love to see that.

    Where did they break? Do you have a picture of one?

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    The one in my 1965 car (301382) looks like the bottom photo,
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    The folded edge is 67-
    1966 911 #304065 Irischgruen

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    Txs. good info. Seems I need to find one more of the simple type.
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    Quote Originally Posted by preS View Post
    I would love to see that.

    Where did they break? Do you have a picture of one?

    Richard
    They break at the narrowest point just next to where they bolt to the chassis. I have one - will be back with a photo later...
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    I found more 'flat' engine swords in the lower picture, but they have a different shape than mine. Mine is first picture, the ones I find are the bottom 2.
    - Mine is a rhombus or diamond shape flat sheet metal; the other 2 are straight at the top.
    - mine has relatively large hole in the middle versus the other 2, of which each hole is also different again

    Who can tell me which period these 3 different swords are?

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    964 Targa original Dutch police car (one of 45)
    964 Turbo 3.6 (one of 1450)
    993 S Vesuvio (one of 250)

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    Solved the issue, the lower 2 in post 8 are 912, the correct 1965 911 is the upper one in thread 8.
    member 2971 Jacques
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