Flat six values flat-lining according to Hargerty's most recent numbers

[BrentF]

For example:




PS: Typo in title, meant to say Hagerty

[sithot]

Good cars will still bring the money. The problem is all of the bad pieces being marketed as the gold standard (BS). They do not help the rest of those who would sell with integrity and honesty.

CarFax and AutoCheck are great tools for the 17 digit VIN cars. That's what a lot of Rennlist and Pelican cars are and I've found my fair share of turds in the punchbowl. Some admitted "issues" but glossed over
the facts. Others simply left it out of the ad.

You're on your own out here. It's the Wild West.

[Bill Simmeth]

Good cars will still bring the money.

+1 Check Hagerty's chart for #1 65's.

Here...

[NeunElf]

+1 Check Hagerty's chart for #1 65's.

But the 1965 911 with two two barrel carbs is extremely rare...

[Bill Simmeth]

Interesting... they've pulled the "January" data down.

[drwhosc]

Yea I can afford to by parts again.... Been crazy lately

[skinnerd]

One month does not make a "flat lining" case for early 911's.
You will continue to see them rise month after month, year after year.
Mark my words....

[BrentF]

It's not a month, it's 4 months (September 2014-January 2015). Two data points connected by a horizontal line meet my definition of a flat line, especially after such a meteoric rise that preceded it. As for what the future holds, I know about as much as you (or Hagerty for that matter), which is defined by the null state.

[Eminence Gris]

The '70 T example is not reflective of the real world numbers I've seen, which are far lower. I think the difficulty here is that one or two stellar examples may have sold each of the last 3 quarters.

We all know that the eBay mix is heavily weighted toward #4 cars, but look at the '1970 Porsche 911 completed' sales.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/Cars-Trucks-...mplete=1&rt=nc

[BrentF]

Perhaps, but for Hagerty's observation of a market flat-lining (or whatever term you wish to use) would mean that the sampling bias that you allege was contained in earlier periods is no longer present, and the results therefore can be ignored on the basis that previous biased numbers are now being compared with non-biased numbers, which is the essence of what you are saying.

Keep in mind, Hagerty does separate their values based on a 4 scale rating. Not sure how they determine which cars fall into which categories on a sale by sale basis, but that categorization of sales results does mean they avoid lumping basket cases in with trailer queens.