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    My first 911 1969 T

    I pulled the trigger and purchased my first 911 a couple of months ago. When I made the first 5 hour drive to look at the car I was a little disappointed in it's condition vs advertised condition. I didn't immediately pull the trigger as there was another car owned by a Southern Ca P shop with a great reputation I wanted to see. I was unable to see the second car as I had trouble scheduling a time to look at it, this was on me the shop/owner was professional every step of the way (Thanks again Marco). The second car sold and so I decided to further negotiate the 69T. I was able to separate the fact from fiction as the current owner had bought it to flip so his details were a bit foggy. We were able to price it correctly for both of us and it was soon on the trailer on the way home with me.

    The past few months have been full of all kinds of entertainment. I was able to put 11 miles on it before I tore into it but I'm glad I did. 2 of them were before I found the advance not working correctly in the distributor the other 9 were marvelous after Jerry Woods blessed the distributor with a rebuild. But the puddle of oil in my garage meant something had to be done. I pulled the motor to reseal some of it and to figure out a few electrical gremlins. The electrical has been surprisingly straight forward and the issues have been mainly corrosion and a few broken wires. The ones that were not that easy have been solved by using the search feature (now I can rebuild a mechanical clock).
    The motor however has been full of surprises. After a leak down and compression test I decided to just reseal it, (leak down was less than 3% difference and compression was at 175psi +or- all the way around). I would not need to do a top end and explore too deep at this point. As I was stripping it down to reseal the cam towers a found a non typical mix of cam chain guides and they were set up on the advanced side. The manual is a lot different than as installed and one of the cam gears were installed upside down. I also found that when the motor had been rebuilt they installed a set of Crane P-296 cams. Crane was able to e-mail me the specs so I was able to degree them properly when putting it back together. Other than that the motor has been going back together well. The "while it is out" bug did get a hold of me and I rebuild the Webers and replaced the clutch.
    The pedal bushings were a little sloppy so I pulled up some of the carpet to remove the pedal cluster and found a "custom Pedal/toeboard" and a little rust in the floor that was covered with fiberglass cloth and sprayed with rubberized coating top and bottom. I honestly didn't see it while laying under the car. I removed all of the carpet and horse hair insulation. Cut the rust spots out welded in new steel. Treated the steel and painted the floor boards. I used the carpet I had as it is still in good condition and used a foil back closed cell foam backing glued to the carpet. It installed well.
    There are so many more projects that I will be tackling in the near future but I figured a little update now would keep me from writing a book later. Thanks for looking.

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    That Mad Max driver's side floorboard is definitely a piece of wall art. When you replace it, note that the pedal stop in the stock floorboard is an important component!

    Oh, and congratulations. It's become a big challenge to 'take the first step' into the world of early Porsches.
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    Excellent! . . .


    . . . a 'Regular Guy' kinda-thread . . .

    I searched . . .

    . . . I found . . .



    . . . I fixed




    Thanks for posting! --- and don't forget the 'drive-stuff'? Some pretty-pretty spots Out Your Way, so . . .

    . . . be sure to hang your camera out/thru the window, now + then

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    Hey neighbor that looks like New Brighton! Aptos here,,, Do you hit the 41st Starbucks for cars and coffee on Sat mornings?? We usually have anywhere from 4-8 Porsches taking spots away from the hot rodders every Sat. Would be nice to see another early car there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eminence Gris View Post
    That Mad Max driver's side floorboard is definitely a piece of wall art. When you replace it, note that the pedal stop in the stock floorboard is an important component!

    Oh, and congratulations. It's become a big challenge to 'take the first step' into the world of early Porsches.
    It's already on display, I chuckled a bit when I found it. I did buy a floor board and ordered the both pedal stops. Thank you

    Quote Originally Posted by LongRanger View Post
    Excellent! . . .


    . . . a 'Regular Guy' kinda-thread . . .

    I searched . . .

    . . . I found . . .



    . . . I fixed




    Thanks for posting! --- and don't forget the 'drive-stuff'? Some pretty-pretty spots Out Your Way, so . . .

    . . . be sure to hang your camera out/thru the window, now + then
    I will take that drive advise and use it. I'm only trying to dig deep enough right now to get it to the stage of a safe driver. I have a list of many upgrades to do but on the top of that list there is a reminder to drive and get to know it, before I tear it apart. This car is to replace a very involved project that I crashed this past Oct. The car went thought many different brake, suspension and drivetrain changes and without the seat time it would have been hard to justify them. I'm looking forward to learning the handling/driving characteristics of the 911 so as I upgrade I'll know that I went the right direction. I enjoyed putting miles on the 510 and it clocked a lot of them each year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 70SATMan View Post
    Hey neighbor that looks like New Brighton! Aptos here,,, Do you hit the 41st Starbucks for cars and coffee on Sat mornings?? We usually have anywhere from 4-8 Porsches taking spots away from the hot rodders every Sat. Would be nice to see another early car there.
    Close I'm up in the Soquel hills. I do make it to the Cars and Coffee every once in a while. I usually do a quick walk through and I'm on my way in just a few minutes. The car should be going within the next couple of weeks so it will give me a reason to spend some more time there. I'll introduce myself next time I walk through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Great_Escape View Post
    It's already on display, I chuckled a bit when I found it. I did buy a floor board and ordered the both pedal stops. Thank you


    I will take that drive advise and use it. I'm only trying to dig deep enough right now to get it to the stage of a safe driver. I have a list of many upgrades to do but on the top of that list there is a reminder to drive and get to know it, before I tear it apart. This car is to replace a very involved project that I crashed this past Oct. The car went thought many different brake, suspension and drivetrain changes and without the seat time it would have been hard to justify them. I'm looking forward to learning the handling/driving characteristics of the 911 so as I upgrade I'll know that I went the right direction. I enjoyed putting miles on the 510 and it clocked a lot of them each year.
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    Dude! The 510 was sweet. I actually gasped aloud when I scrolled down to the second pic. Glad you are still with us. How did that go down???
    Have fun with the new car. Keep us updated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cornpanzer View Post
    Dude! The 510 was sweet. I actually gasped aloud when I scrolled down to the second pic. Glad you are still with us. How did that go down???
    Have fun with the new car. Keep us updated.
    I had been obsessed with 510's for too long to admit. The Cactus Green/Crashed one was the build I had always wanted with one of those. It was the factory color that caught my eye and had all the upgrades it needed. After the accident the wife said I could fill the garage with any car other than a 510 she said they now have bad juju and she didn't want to see me in another. She won the argument easily as I had already built my dream 510 and I didn't really want to try to repeat history. It is now time to fulfill another build that has spent too many years in my head. The 46 car in the picture was one of the other toys that left my possession to make way for the 69T.

    Among other injuries a head injury has kept me from remembering the accident. Retracing my steps from the day with help from my wife and the top of my tool box, what I can tell you is that no one else was involved and the only property damaged was my own. I was working on a low speed hesitation and the accident report states that speed was not a contributing factor. Thank you for the kind report but the speed limit where I crashed is 35mph and the condition of the car indicates (to me) that I may have been traveling a bit faster. The accident happened within 2 miles of my house on a road that I drive everyday. I am thankful to still be here and although I have not returned to work yet and still have physical limitations I am feeling better each day. I have been keeping myself occupied with the Porsche and that has kept my spirit up while completing my physical therapy. With some more time and work I should make a complete recovery.
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    Geez, I too gasped at that second pic. Glad to hear you were not more seriously injured. That looks like a hit one does not walk away from. Your car looked great as does the race car. I run an 1800 BRE 510 also. Or as Frank teases me, a major appliance...

    Congrats on the early car. Sounds like you are having fun diving right in. That's awesome. Welcome to our little corner of the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by t6dpilot View Post
    Geez, I too gasped at that second pic. Glad to hear you were not more seriously injured. That looks like a hit one does not walk away from. Your car looked great as does the race car. I run an 1800 BRE 510 also. Or as Frank teases me, a major appliance...

    Congrats on the early car. Sounds like you are having fun diving right in. That's awesome. Welcome to our little corner of the world.
    Thank you phsical therapy has me gaining rang of motion every time I go I should be at 100% in no time at all. I enjoy watching the B-class sedans. The sound of a 1.8 spinning at 8k is great music.

    And a update:
    The motor was re install about two weeks ago. I upgraded/repaired some funky wiring in the engine bay and started the to identify the last few leaks I had. The O-ring between the reservoir and oil filter adapter had seen better days and one of the axle stubs where it enters the trans was weeping. I replace those seals and repaired a few things along the way. The CV had no gasket at either end and the parking brake was way out of adjustment. The remaining leaks are minor at this point and all I can Identify is some weepage at the case halfs. I can live with that one as I did not go that deep into the motor time around and over night it might leave a dime sized spot. That acceptable to me. A few other things that were done in the last two weeks include, batwing/ hornswitch repair, Tach adapter to make it work with the MSD, brake fluid flush, transmission flush and balanced the old tires that are on it.
    This morning I decided to take it to the local Saturday morning cars and coffee my wife actually wanted to join even though her car show excitement is far less than mine. We stopped down the street for a breakfast snack and a cup of coffee. When we got back to the car she reminded me why I bought the car by simply saying "lets go get lost" and we did. The car show was North we headed South (I'll see you next week car show). We put almost 250 miles on the car today didn't have on hiccup along the way. We had a sandwich at the corkscrew (Laguna Seca is a Public park and a club was having a track day). There were some other highlights like the first real mileage in my car and confidence I have for putting more and more miles on it.
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