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Thread: Feeler: value of 1970 T with fresh 2.7 RS-spec and other upgrades

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    Feeler: value of 1970 T with fresh 2.7 RS-spec and other upgrades

    Hi all,

    I'm thinking about selling my 1970 T that I've owned for about 7 years now. It's a car I've wanted since I was little, but with the run up in prices since I bought I'm finding parts, maintenance and insurance prices are getting a little too high for me. I have no idea what it's worth, so I thought I'd ask for some guidance here.

    It is a Canadian car, but because of the age all of the gauges are imperial rather than metric. The car was in Vancouver for the first part of it's life, and then in the (DRY) Prairies for many years. There is/was relatively little rust on the car - the front suspension pan has been replaced, and there is some minor bubbling on the cowl, the bottom of the front fender wings, and a little on one door. The floors and rockers are solid.

    The odometer shows 87,000 miles, and that may very well be the actual mileage. I believe the Securit windshield is the original, as are the pedal pads - and they appear consistent with 87K, not 187K.

    Original color is Conda Green with black interior, but the car wears a 1980s red repaint. Although the car looks sharp from 10ft away, the diligent observer will note that it needs new paint. The car came from the factory with the "S" deco, "S" spoiler, and "S" gauge packages.

    Fresh (1500 mile) 2.7L engine built by a reputable local Porsche engine builder (retired National Research Council physicist with over 30 years of Porsche engine building experience) with RS P&C, Weber carbs, PMO intakes, a prepared 7R case, SC oil pump, Carrera chain tensioners, all new gaskets, seals, fasteners, bearings, etc. RS P&C and Webers were bought new 15 years ago for another motor he built, the owner put 3000 miles on the motor and traded it in on a larger motor. I also added oil lines and a trombone oil cooler from a newer car. Car runs very strong, and has excellent oil pressure and temperatures. This is connected to the factory heat exchangers and a Bursh "Street Quiet" (not so quiet) exhaust.

    I kept the original 5-speed 901 transmission because I prefer the feel & light clutch action to the later 915. The shifter bushings have been replaced, and a used "S" clutch was installed a few years ago. The car shifts quite well, with a very light feel.

    The brake rotors are new as well as the Porterfield RS4 pads and the brake master cylinder. The suspension has seen extensive refresh & upgrades, with new Koni "Red" Classic adjustable shocks all around, 15mm early "S" sway bars front & rear, and 1mm thicker torsion bar in the back. All the bushings in the front have been replaced with OE rubber, as have all but the banana arm bushings in the back (didn't want to drop the motor for that, I have them in the package still). The spring plates have been replaced with Weltmeister/Sway-A_way adjustables, so the car is fully height-adjustable without re-indexing torsion bars. A bump-steer kit was installed. The car is set up to be a very sporty but comfortable street driver. The car rides on a brand-new set of 17x7 Euromeister Fuchs replicas with new Bridgestone RE760 Sport summer rubber (purchased fall 2014). The "stance" has been set up moderately low, and the car corner-balanced.

    Inside the car, the original seats have been replaced with a set of NOS Flofit (1970s/80s US made Recaro LS-style) seats. They are very comfortable and hold you in during spirited drives. I've replaced the 45 year old seat belts with modern (but manual) ones for safety. I've also installed a Brey-Krause harness guide bar for structural rigidity and the possibility of mounting harnesses. The doors have leather RSA-style door panels, with JBL speakers. I still have the original uncut door cards, but the pockets need restoration work. The dash is covered with a slip-cover which isn't really noticeable unless you are looking for it. I have replacement OE "basket weave" material for the dash & glovebox trim, but haven't cut and installed it yet. There is a modern USB-capable Sony head unit in the dash.

    Outside, unfortunately all of the brightwork was painted black at the time of the 1980s paint job, to "update" the car. In an effort to bring some "bling" back to the front end, I've added some chrome Bosch H4 Euro headlights, and some chrome thru-the-grille driving lights. The cheap plastic grills I bought with these lights need to be replaced. I do have the original (non-cut) horn grilles.

    Any thoughts on value would be much appreciated.
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    Last edited by orange260z; 03-22-2015 at 04:47 AM.
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    1970 Porsche 911T - 2.7RS Spec

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    I'll bite.

    Rust, color change, non matching motor, mild hot rod, 40k-45. At that price, it will sell pretty quickly.

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    Too many issues - rust, non matching, color change, black trim... $40k tops on best day
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    So many issues here. Using the Hagerty system this is a #4 car. That makes it about $32,000. This car has taken a huge hit in the past year. At one time it might have been worth $40,000.

    The #1 and #2 cars are flat right now. Everything else is headed down. This is what we saw at Amelia. The 911 market appears to be stabilizing.

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    Take those seats out, they just dont fit the car. Take off the other add on stuff that doesn't fit the period. Stage it in a barn. Blow dust all over it. Ebay - $70K

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richardnew View Post
    So many issues here. Using the Hagerty system this is a #4 car. That makes it about $32,000. This car has taken a huge hit in the past year. At one time it might have been worth $40,000.

    The #1 and #2 cars are flat right now. Everything else is headed down. This is what we saw at Amelia. The 911 market appears to be stabilizing.

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    Why are your posts so negative on values for early 911's are you trying to buy one? All of the good cars at Amelia brought strong money.
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