Considering selling late fathers restored, matching numbers 1967 911s. Need help.

[Tim S.]

Hello Early S,

I have posted and sold a few things on this forum after my dad died in 2012 (Forum name Mark S.) Once again I need some guidance in regards to the best way to sell his 911. I have grown up with some sort of Porsche in my garage all my life (33 now), I am familiar with the make but no expert etc. My father purchased this car many years back here in New Mexico (mid 90's he drove it home and stored it). The info I know: Car is a numbers matching ivory white euro 911s, very minor rust on rear deck (have porsche paper work). He did a resto around 2008-2009. My father was never one to have a fully 100% stock car so he built it like he wanted it. Example: He pulled the running original engine and trans from the car and installed a twin plug vintage race motor we had laying around (He wanted to preserve original motor and trans, stored in my garage). Installed Boyd 7" rear wheels, Recaro sport seats. nardi wheel, repa belts, elephant racing oil cooler set up etc.) I like my father enjoy driving cars and enjoying them but it seems the car just sits and sits. I am almost to scared to drive and enjoy because I know it is worth a lot of money. I plan to buy a 993 soon and drive the hell out of it and not worry so much if something happens etc.

So my questions...

I want to keep the twin plug motor thats currently in the car (future project motor). I don't want to mess with installing the original engine etc. It runs but needs a freshen up before it goes into the car (see pics). How hard is it going to be to sell the car with engine and trans included but out of the car?

The real value of the car? I have been following prices on these cars since 2009 but whats it really worth? The car is not a 100% concourse car but it is damn nice and completely gone thorough (minus original engine and trans). I know its hard to see details from my crappy cell pictures, I need to get the car cleaned up and on my lift to snap nicer pics (here are some real quick ones).

Advice and thoughts?

Thanks for your time guys!

Tim S.







Original motor, seats, rear wheels





I have a photo book of some resto pics and a video of the original motor running before removal. Link to full album: http://s138.photobucket.com/user/Sho...?sort=3&page=1

[Frank Beck]

Great car! Your father had the right idea.

Did Hans Wittler work on it?

[blucille]

To me, the only way to proceed would be to have a qualified shop install and tune the motor, you would be leaving a ton of money on the table to sell it any other way.

I'm sure you will get a lot of pm's and emails with offers, well into the 6 figure mark, but add a solid 20-30% to those offers and you could likely get that amount as a (not perfect but) running and driving car.

It is a 67 S after all.

Good luck with the sale.

[ajwans]

Tim you have a valuable car there. 100% agree with the previous poster to put it back to matching numbers and market it as such.

We have a thread here with 911s cars for sale. You should be able to work out with a few hours research what your car is worth and the direction prices have headed.

andy

[LongRanger]

VIN = 306866S
Eng# = 960867
Trans# = 103852

Previously . . .

. . . gonna try and make this short and concise . . . Can you maybe help me identify and value some of the items? Before I get a PM's the car is not for sale its staying put . . .

. . . a link to the final resto pics: . . .
http://s138.photobucket.com/user/Sho...art=all&page=1


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[72targa]

It's interesting to search this board on "306866S". So much activity with your Dad (MarkS). Made me kind of sad. Take your time with this special car. Be honest with yourself that you really want to sell it. It will always be a part of your Dad. If you do, as stated above, sell it with the original engine installed. GLWS

[raspy2point2]

With the original engine installed, you have one less story to tell with this car and one less thing to reduce the price down in the buyers eyes. To swap out engines is not that expensive; $400 +or so. More if the engine needs work. That is such a nice looking car, I would think twice about selling. After all it is part of your family experience. Chris

[brookedale091462]

Hey Tim,
I want to chime in with agreement on these other posts. In April I purchased a 67S #305552 with many similarities; 1)the engine was out and set aside, 2)the seller planned on keeping the extra engine, 3)all the parts were there.
I researched the cost to place the stock components back on the car and it was minimal as long as the engine does not need a rebuilt. I offered just over six figures "as is" and acquired the car. He simply did not have the time to do the work.
So with this background on a recent 67S purchase with similar issues I strongly suggest you talk to a couple local shops, have them take a look at what you have and get an idea of their estimate to bring it back to stock. You should be rewarded for your efforts.
Good Luck,
Dennis

It's interesting to search this board on "306866S". So much activity with your Dad (MarkS). Made me kind of sad. Take your time with this special car. Be honest with yourself that you really want to sell it. It will always be a part of your Dad. If you do, as stated above, sell it with the original engine installed. GLWS

[Richardnew]

The real value is in originality. It's also found in a running car.

A project is never going to have the same value. Return it to as close to original as possible. Here's an article i wrote on originality.

Richard Newton

[Frank Beck]

Tim,
Keep the car if you can but I'm sure your wife has her reasons for wanting to sell it.

Before "swapping the engines out for $400" (BTW: You'll see a baby monkey riding a unicorn down your street before you find a qualified shop to perform that procedure for $400), have someone do a leak down test and drop the strainer plate for inspection. It would be silly and foolish to reinstall the orig engine on a car like this without restoring it to proper mechanical and cosmetic specs. Also, I would recommend opening up the trans for a cursory inspection and re-seal. For 6 figures buyers are going to want the mechanicals in order.













While going though your photo gallery the pic below spoke to me and will apply to many of the comments in this thread.

Feel free to PM or email me if you want the brutal truth on a project like this or advice on 993's.

Best of luck.


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