FS: @auctionsamerica - 1967 911S soft window targa

[NeunElf]

Updated COA. Original COA had errors (said it was a coupe).

That original CofA may have been the worst CofA of all time.

[Jim Morris]

Jim Amato notes that the 67 Targas were built by Porsche. But I've read other posts on this Registry in which it is claimed that Karmann built the 67 Targa bodies. Is there a definitive clarification on this?

[doigthom]

Bid up to $160,000.00 and no sale. Still said 130 hp instead of correct 160 hp. No mention of whether original motor or trans. Still said Karman and one of 236 built.

[davep]

I've read other posts on this Registry in which it is claimed that Karmann built the 67 Targa bodies. Is there a definitive clarification on this?

No Targa with a Karmann paint badge is known.

[DOUGS73E]

Apparently a real auction darling this year . . .
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Russo and Steele’s 16th Annual Monterey, California Auction, August 18th – 20th, 2016
1967 Porsche 2.0L 911S Soft Window Targa, Lot 7037
VIN: 500714
Engine: 962171
Trans: 105117 (901/02)
Color: Bahama Yellow(6605)/Black Leather
Mileage: 00034 (indicated)
Auction Estimate: -
Sold for: NO SALE(?)

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Auction Description:

1967 model year was the first year of the iconic 911S and the first year of the Targa body style. This is perhaps the best example of the very rare “Soft-Window Targa.” This example was number 714 out of the 718 Targas made for the 1967 model year, of which only 483 were 911S models that offered higher horsepower (180 hp) and comprehensive chassis and braking upgrades. This is the last known 1967 911S “Soft-Window” Targa produced, according to the Early 911S Registry.

This matching numbers classic is fresh from a multi-year restoration by Vintage Motor Sports, the early 911 specialists in Alpharetta, Georgia. The body was stripped to bare metal and completely reworked then finished to perfection in the original and highly desirable Bahama Yellow color. New and correct original style upholstery has been fitted and the optional sport seats were refinished in houndstooth wool and installed along with a rare original wooden steering wheel. A new soft-window top has been installed and the hard top has been fully overhauled. The original Fuchs 4 ½ x 15 wheels have been freshly restored by expert Harvey Weidman. New tires, shocks, and all new suspension bushings have been installed. The engine has just been fully overhauled by Vintage Motor Sports. This “Soft-Window” Targa is simply an excellent, highly collectible first-year 911S.

[NeunElf]

Apparently a real auction darling this year . . .
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Russo and Steele’s 16th Annual Monterey, California Auction, August 18th – 20th, 2016
1967 Porsche 2.0L 911S Soft Window Targa, Lot 7037
VIN: 500714
Engine: 962171
Trans: 105117 (901/02)
Color: Bahama Yellow(6605)/Black Leather
Mileage: 00034 (indicated)
Auction Estimate: -
Sold for: TBD


Auction Description:

1967 model year was the first year of the iconic 911S and the first year of the Targa body style. This is perhaps the best example of the very rare “Soft-Window Targa.” This example was number 714 out of the 718 Targas made for the 1967 model year, of which only 483 were 911S models that offered higher horsepower (180 hp) and comprehensive chassis and braking upgrades. This is the last known 1967 911S “Soft-Window” Targa produced, according to the Early 911S Registry.

This matching numbers classic is fresh from a multi-year restoration by Vintage Motor Sports, the early 911 specialists in Alpharetta, Georgia. The body was stripped to bare metal and completely reworked then finished to perfection in the original and highly desirable Bahama Yellow color. New and correct original style upholstery has been fitted and the optional sport seats were refinished in houndstooth wool and installed along with a rare original wooden steering wheel. A new soft-window top has been installed and the hard top has been fully overhauled. The original Fuchs 4 ½ x 15 wheels have been freshly restored by expert Harvey Weidman. New tires, shocks, and all new suspension bushings have been installed. The engine has just been fully overhauled by Vintage Motor Sports. This “Soft-Window” Targa is simply an excellent, highly collectible first-year 911S.

That's actually a pretty decent writeup by Russo and Steele. They must have a copy of The Porsche Book by Jürgen Barth & Gustav Büsing (or maybe they saw my earlier post).

Naturally, like all cars up for auction, its color is "highly desirable."

This Targa still has those pleated door panels I haven't seen on other 1967 cars.

[Soterik]

This Targa still has those pleated door panels I haven't seen on other 1967 cars.

This car has actually quite a laundry list of incorrect details. It will be interesting to see if those are overlooked, and how high the car gets bit up. Pretty color no doubt.

[edmayo]

I'm curious, why doesn't the VIN have the 'S' suffix?

[NeunElf]

I'm curious, why doesn't the VIN have the 'S' suffix?

The missing "S" is probably just an omission on the CofA--the CofA was probably prepared by someone who didn't know what that meant in 1967.

962171 is in the number range for 911S engines (901/02: 960001-961140) and the 901/02 transaxle was intended for the 911S.

The original CofA shown earlier in this thread was astoundingly inaccurate.

[VintageExcellen]

Auction description says "This is perhaps the best example of the very rare “Soft-Window Targa.”

Nope, not that nice. I took a couple minutes and looked at the pictures because a client of mine asked me to....

Lots of things still left to do. I see it has LWB sports seats in it, the seat upholstery just doesn't fit right either. I doubt that domestic pattern houndstooth is wool like the description says - probably the common nylon stuff made for American cars. Square weave carpet rather than Haargan. Of course those goofey door panels which I think upholsterer was just copying the rear interior quarter panels - again no experience with early Porsches. The way they tucked the vinyl on the driver side map/foot pocket shows pride in their work I like the screw stuck in the vinyl on the passenger pillar post. The whole interior trim job is not adequate and needs to be completely redone.

Paint is hard to tell in pictures, they say bare metal job, I see a front hood that does not fit well, rear lid also does not fit well, backs of the doors are not blacked out, neither are behind the horn grilles, I wonder about the engine grill backing. It's clear the painter did not know Porsches well otherwise the lines at the ends of the hoods would be much cleaner. They actually did a good job of framing these pictures so it's very hard to tell the quality of the body - good work boys the color is cool however.

Rare black plastic rear view mirror missing, Cross eyed fog lights, big Durant door mirror from a 68+ and another on the pass side, no rubber plugs in the doors, lots of scratches on the dash under the gauges - must have ran out of time to paint the dash in their multi year resto, wheels are done nice because the right guy did them but the lug nuts should be silver, all the turn lenses are the cheap and poor quality taskers repro type - looks like the rears are Euro and the fronts USA, the entire engine detail job is amateurish and missing too many details to list, black border engine decals instead of correct red ones, is the tailpipe tip black?

If someone threw another $50k of quality work at this car then these problems can be fixed, not including paint repair if it needs it.

Feels like the old days, back to trashing cars that are presented as the best on the S Reg. That felt good. Still an awesome car but it needs a real owner to make it right as this looks like a flip job.