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    Changing 911 1965 USA specs to European specs

    Dear,

    Now for the moment we are doing a restoration of a 911 1965 Slate Grey car.
    Following the Porsche identification/kardex/CoA there is mentioned:

    USA delivered car.

    Like you all know the headlights/back lights/speedometers is different from both specs.

    I'm living in Europe, so if I would change the USA specs to Europe specs would this have a big impact on the value of the car?
    Don't getting out of this.
    Like the Slate grey 1965 Porsche in the museum with red interior.
    This is a European car but have back lights + front signal lights + fog lights of an USA spec car.

    Thanks a lot guys!

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    Michael,

    i assume it is depending on in which country you do live.
    Please correct me, but I think in the US, the euro spec version is valued more, because of itīs "foreign impression"
    Here in Germany the US red light version does have a better "standing" over the traditional euro spec version.
    The rear red light version is allowed up to built year 1970 -
    best is to keep a set of both, just for any case....
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    Haul,

    Thanks for your reply!
    I am living in Belgium.
    So the fact is this: I like everything of the USA spec except for the sealed headlights.
    I rather like the European headlights.
    Like the Porsche 911 slate grey of the museum (car in the anniversary brochures) has a combination of usa and european specs of lights.
    Would I change all USA specs to european specs or just the headlight sealed to euro lights?
    How do you mean by USA version has a better stabding in Germany?
    Do you may be know if there is an impact on value?

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by haul View Post
    Please correct me, but I think in the US, the euro spec version is valued more, because of itīs "foreign impression"
    Here in Germany the US red light version does have a better "standing" over the traditional euro spec version.
    It would be very hard to prove that, here in the U.S. and all things being equal, there is a measurable difference in value between U.S. and euro cars.

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    LiveFromNY,

    Thanks for reply!
    What do you mean by your post?
    Saying there is a measurable difference in value between us and euro cars?

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    not to get it wrong...
    i was only talking about the turn signal and rear light units.
    not if a car was from EU or US.
    only the different versions of light units - sorry for creating misunderstandings.

    it is "kind of cool" in germany to have the rear red light US version.

    @michael
    the front light units.. just change the insert/interiour or get a "new" bosch insert - either stay with the clear hella 19, or change to "streuscheibe". This has to be done....
    for the rest, stay with the US specs.
    my opinion...
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    So there is a value difference between usa specs and european specs?
    In what sense?

    Now for the moment the car is restored and hd all european lights.
    But want to bring it to all usa lights back like on kardex except the headlights would be replaced by eurolights.

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    One thing to consider is that you would probably get the best possible lighting performance--today--with the USA sealed beam units but with the sealed beam bulbs replaced with H4 inserts or the new LED inserts.
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    Save your parts. Anything you do can be put back if need be.

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    Thanks,

    But in general it is more clever to just change the headlights to euro specs then to change all the rest to euro specs?
    Different people tell different things.
    I also suppose this have impact on value?
    How about in the us, are euro cars more valuable then us cars?
    And hoe about in europe?
    Does anyone know this?

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